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 Posted: Mon Aug 17th, 2009 03:07 pm
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Hi!

I just became the owner of a Martin 0-15T. Came down through the family. I've never played guitar before and am wondering if anyone can offer some insights on where to start for a tenor guitar.

Also, it's missing the last string, so I'm wondering about restringing. Can anyone recommend a brand?

Thanks!

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smithma7 wrote: Hi!

I just became the owner of a Martin 0-15T. Came down through the family. I've never played guitar before and am wondering if anyone can offer some insights on where to start for a tenor guitar.

Also, it's missing the last string, so I'm wondering about restringing. Can anyone recommend a brand?

Thanks!

The tenor guitar was designed to be tuned C-G-D-A, using special gauge steel strings designed for that tuning.  This is the identical tuning used for 4-string tenor banjo, and you can use the chord diagrams from a tenor banjo book to play your tenor guitar.  (Note: don't use a book for 5-string banjo - that tuning is different than C-G-D-A)

You may also find useful information at this web site devoted to tenor guitars:

http://www.tenorguitar.com/

d'Addario makes tenor guitar strings:

http://www.juststrings.com/daddariotenorguitar.html

It is also possible to use the 4 thinnest strings of a regular (6-string) set of steel guitar strings and tune it D-G-B-E (known as "Chicago tuning.")   This is the same tuning used by the smaller 4-string baritone ukulele.  If you choose to use this tuning, you may use a baritone ukulele book to learn the chords, and later on, you may use chord-lyric books for guitar (ignore the missing two lowest bass strings in the chord diagrams).

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"Chicago tuning" was used by both Tiny Grimes, an electric jazz guitar player and Nick Reynolds of the Kingston Trio, who is often pictured with the capo on the fifth fret, giving him low G ukulele tuning.

Incidently, a name that often comes up when tenor guitar is mentioned is Eddie Condon, who never played the tenor guitar. Eddie was a player of the plectrum guitar.  The plectrum has a longer scale and is meant to be tuned CGBD or DGBD, but can also be tuned DGBE in Chicago tuning.

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Greetings, I noticed your post and wanted to ask you about my tenors.  I bought a goldtone tg-18 tenor about a year or so ago, and noticed that the second string sounds sharp at the second fret.  I checked my tuning thoroughly, but still came up with that sharp sound.  Assuming it to be a defect, I recently bought another tenor, a little martin lxm tenor-and it has the same exact thing going on.  Is this a common problem with tenors?  What can be done about it?

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Graham I had a goldtone tenor and did not like the sound and did also bought a Martin and changed strings the first thing and tuned it DGBE and it sounds great,

You did not say what tuning you are tuneing it, but that should not matter,  Is the string height to high, That will couse it to go sharp,  Check that and see if you can get a music store to check it for you,  The Martin should be a good sounding instrument.

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Thanks for the advice-you know, you reminded me of something.  A good while ago, I had the strings on my goldtone adjusted a little bit higher in order to erase some fretbuzz that I was experiencing.  I don't remember the sharp fret sound before that, and I think that maybe I would have noticed it, as I sure do now.  As for tunings, I'm currently in CGDA for both tenors, so the sharp note on the second fret definitely rings out noticeably.  Thanks again.-

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graham wrote: Thanks for the advice-you know, you reminded me of something.  A good while ago, I had the strings on my goldtone adjusted a little bit higher in order to erase some fretbuzz that I was experiencing.  I don't remember the sharp fret sound before that, and I think that maybe I would have noticed it, as I sure do now.  As for tunings, I'm currently in CGDA for both tenors, so the sharp note on the second fret definitely rings out noticeably.  Thanks again.-
It's quite possible that the saddle on your Martin tenor is a bit high and your Gold Tone tenor was possibly shimmed up a bit too high, causing the sharp note at the second fret.  Sometimes, a quarter turn of the truss rod will eliminate fret buzz.

My Lark In The Morning long-scale tenor tuned GDAE has very low action, but no fret buzz or intonation problems.



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dumb question here-is that a quarter turn left, or right?:shock:

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graham wrote: dumb question here-is that a quarter turn left, or right?:shock:
The truss rod is meant to counteract the pull of the strings.  Loosening the truss rod (usually that means turning counterclockwise, to the left) allows the strings to put the neck into a "forward bow" which gives more space (relief) between the strings and the fretboard.  Tightening the truss rod (turning clockwise, to the right) will tighten the truss rod and straighten the neck against the string pull.  Overtightening will put the neck into a backward bow, which makes a hump that will hit the strings, making the buzzing problem worse.

You will need the proper size hexagonal allen wrench that fits the truss rod nut exactly in order to make the adjustment.   You will also need a Sharpie, or other permanent marker so that you can mark your starting point on the truss rod and the hexagonal nut, so that you know your "return point" in case you turn the truss rod too much.

This article link explains it better, with diagrams:

http://www.athensmusician.net/archive/2001-05-01_geneimbody1.shtml



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