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 Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 03:08 pm
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Hello,

I play erhu for a little more than two weeks now.
I've recorded my first song, which is a "psychedelic arabian" creation, with the main erhu tune in B/F#, (and another one playing just one note to create a background ambiance...)
I put a lot of reverb and did some re-recordings...
I must also say that I'm a professionnal musician in France, playing a lot of instruments (piano, keyboards, guitars, bass...).

So I'd like your opinion about this creation, and of course some advices to progress, because I'd like to record a "serious" piece later !
And also one question : where do you place the microphone ? (i put it in my back for this song, to ear the bow less...)
I've just post the song here :

http://c1.ezfolk.com/sebfillion/

(I don't know how to do to give just the mp3 address)

I wait for your comments

Sébastien

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 Posted: Fri Oct 23rd, 2009 08:49 pm
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Hi Sébastien, I listened to your recording. Mmmm, it is striking! You have played erhu for only a little more than two weeks and you can manipulate it this well.

The tune is celestial to me, or "phantomlike" may I use the word. I would say it is certainly very creative to come up with such a tune on an erhu. While the erhu sounds a bit husky because it is new, the husky tone contributes to your piece.

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This is a really creation, it is surprising.very good.

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Très intéressant!  Ça me rappelle des premiers œuvres de Jean-Luc Ponty sur le violon!

(Very interesting!  It reminds me of the early works of Jean-Luc Ponty on the violin!)



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A short time ago, there was a guy asking here at the forum, for an erhu artist to provide some soundtrack for a movie he was making.  This one might interest him ! ?

Den

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Are you playing with the bow strings "captive" ?   there are a couple spots that sound like your bowing both simultaneously,  or is that totally a re-recording effect?

Den

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Thanks for your answers.

C'est aussi sympa de voir qu'il y a des francophones sur ce site :)

Thanks Den for the film score post; I left a message... We'll see. This kind of project would be a great motivation for making progress.

About my improvisation, I just realised that there's a problem : a lot of saturation on the track due to mp3 bad export... don't mind, it's just an unserious first demo.

Yes, the bow is captured between the two strings, but I tried to explore this, playing at the end with the bow horizontally, bowing the two strings at the same time. After, with my left hand, I play the notes just on one string, which make a curious medieval effect... That's interesting to learn an instrument without teacher : we can explore it in a not conventional way, even if of course there are some technical limits...

What about the microphone placement ? Can anyone give me advices ?
I first tried to put the microphone (an overhead with phantom power) in front of me; I found the sound great but too much clear and agressive in my sense, and I heard the bowing too much. So I put it in my back; the sound is less powerful but more smooth... The ideal would be a compromise between both...

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hi, sebfillion

It is said that the distance of the erhu resonator and the microphone is about from 0.5 to 1.0 meter.

If the microphone is put on the side of the resonator window, the lower frequency becomes stronger. And on the side of snake skin, the higher frequency becomes stronger.

Therefore if the microphone is put at the position between these two sides, the moderate sound character can been gotten.

I think the microphone ought to be put in font of erhu, instead of  your back side.



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When playing live, I usually place the mic behind the resonator. This is mostly practical since the mic is more out of the way. Often I use a clip-on mic that attaches to the erhu shaft near the resonator, and the mic itself is aimed to the rear of the resonator. (see the K&K Sound Silver Bullet microphone).

Based on past experience, the best sound comes from using two microphones, or a pickup and a stand mic. The mix of two microphones or a pickup and microphone has more presence. For erhu, the combined mix of a microphone in front and another aimed at the rear of the resonator should be a good sound.

Best wishes,

David

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it is incredible!!
Only two weeks of practice!!!

congratulation!

You know how to play violin before?

Where did you buy your erhu?

I bought Erhu via Internet in China, but I am afraid to not know how to play it, although the desire is present!
I put some questions in another topics about the practice and advice to begin… Perhaps you will be able given me some answers...

cheers once more!

Yours faithfully

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