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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 03:12 am
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Hi,
I have been experimenting with how much pressure to use on the strings to get a clean sound.The D string it seems doesn't take very much pressure but the A string I have to press fairly hard and to put more pressure on the bow to get a clean sound.If I use less pressure the sound has a little...I guess u could call it excess vibration. I know playing the guitar if you don't fret hard enough the note will have the same excess vibration noise to it so I am guessing that is my problem.Any suggestions are appreciated.

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 04:11 am
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It should not take that much finger pressure on the strings to get a good note. I can't give you anything objective to go by, but if you are used to playing guitar, you should have more than enough finger strength. Fingering a note on the erhu should not be stressful.

My guess is that something is out-of-adjustment on your erhu. Maybe your qianjin is too loose. This is the cord wrapping around the neck and strings that forms one end of the sounding length of the strings.

Check to make sure that there is a pad under the strings between the bridge and where the string loops hook on the base. This pad could need adjustment.

Check the path of the strings to make sure that they do not cross each other. The strings should be looped on the tuning pegs as close to the end as possible.

Best wishes,

David

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 04:35 am
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I have a damper under the strings.The qianjin does have some play in it.To tighten it up I would have to retie it I guess.I don't have any extra qianjin string.I'll check the strings for cross over.Unfortunately there are no teachers where I am to help me check on setting it up.I have brass tuning pegs so I don't  think that is it.I'll keep playing with it.
Thanks

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 04:55 am
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did you rosin the outter bow hair properly?

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 05:06 am
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That I can't say.I haven't had my erhu long so I am guessing at the amount to rosin.I have wondered about that myself.I just bought a new bow and good rosin. I've never read anything about how much to put on.

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 Posted: Thu May 7th, 2009 02:10 pm
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if you cant say, then do it.

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What's the update? Did you rosin the outter bow surface?

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As David and Shanghi have mentioned it does not take much pressure to engage the sound on the Erhu I have found in the past that the strings on the instrument are not properly aligned down the neck and more importantly in the center of the sound box this will give one multiple problems.
In theory the strings should sit on the bridge centered in the middle of the snake skin on the sound box.
take the bridge with both strings saddled on it and try to pull it from one side to the other gently now just to see how the bridge will react if this problem still edgiest then you may have to make a special wooden bridge for your Erhu.
 good luck with things.
 
God Bless    

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I am having trouble with my erhu -- I am a very green beginner, and am only trying to practice my scales. . .

My strings are very very VERY tight when tuned properly, and as such, I have to press down very hard on my strings to change between notes. Is it possible that my qianjin is in the wrong position, or are erhu strings just meant to sit very taut?

Thank you for all of your help!

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Welcome to the forum, narenial. You can relax your fingers and hand. The erhu strings may be tight, but they do not require much pressure from the fingers. In contrast to an instrument with a finger board, like a guitar or violin, it is not necessary to press the strings against anything. Just press enough while bowing to get a good clear sound. The erhu does need to be set up correctly, with enough rosin on the bow, and the qianjin tied with appropriate tightness and located in a good spot.

Make a recording or better yet a video of you playing your erhu and post it somewhere like Youtube for us to see. It will be easier for us to give you useful advice.

Best wishes,

David

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 Posted: Wed Jun 17th, 2009 12:46 pm
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Thank you very much! :)

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 Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2009 03:51 am
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You should only need a light pressure. I bend the strings by about 1 to 2 millimetres. Also it's not just the left fingers, getting good clear notes needs the correct bowing technique.

If you position the qianjin too near to the pegs, the strings will be tighter than normal.

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