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mrjackgreen Approved
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Hi everyone, Quick question about Erhu master Xu Ke. Praised as the "Paganini in the world of Erhu" by some, Xu Ke has won international acclaims with his erhu adapation of western violin pieces, and is famous for several innovations in erhu mastery to include "expanding the erhu's range form two to four octaves, developing techniques such as double-stop, artificial harmonics and graduated prestissimo staccato", according to his website. I am wondering if anyone knows how he tunes his erhu? Is it still toned to DA, and he just plays four octave from D4 and on? Or does he tune to GD? If so, is it necessary to use Erquan strings to tune to GD? Also, is he the only erhu master who is able to play the techniques forementioned? I have seen videos on Youtube of other people playing Paganini variations with erhu. Lastly, I have read on a Chinese-language erhu forum while his bowing techniques have reached artistry, his left-hand notes are less than clean with poor intonations, notability for the Butterfly Lover Symphony (梁祝). Any opinions? More information about Master Xu Ke can be found on his website http://www.xuke.net Some of his videos on youtube: 思念 by 許可 [二胡獨奏] http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoBDhr6iPEQ 梁祝小堤琴協奏曲 by 許可 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQX_N11BCF8 Sarasate Zigeunerweisen 流浪者之歌 by 許可 [二胡獨奏] http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=PvcrfyArts4 Vittorio Monti - Czardas 查爾達什舞曲 by 許可 [二胡獨奏] http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=53FxKq3b5E4 Personally, I think he's pretty amazing. Thanks!
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Den Approved
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hmmm I really like the slow soft tune of the first one of four listed. Is there a translation to english for the title of that one? on you tube it appears to be all in chinese print unless I am missing something. Den
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mrjackgreen Approved
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Let's try again: The Butterfly Lovers [Erhu Concerto] - Philharmonic of China http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihz1BU9_bRE Sarasate Zigeunerweisen 流浪者之歌 by 許可 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvcrfyArts4 Vittorio Monti - Czardas 查爾達什舞曲 by 許可 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53FxKq3b5E4 Remembrance 思念 by 許可 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoBDhr6iPEQ Great performances, not by Xu Ke: Paganini's Caprice no. 24 on Erhu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7fsXVDXFQo Wang Ying's Carmen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFjAe2ATizk
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Den Approved
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thanks for the comeback, I think I found another new favorite !! Den
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Clyde Approved 
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God Bless Last edited on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 07:08 am by Clyde |
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woodstock Approved
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Hi Den I like the mellow sound of the first link also. Is it an erhu? The translation is “Long For…”. It is a little melancholy though. Will
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AllenZ Approved 
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Clyde, Do you mean the eerie sound like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0pAlBe9OFE The 奚琴 Xiqin or Haegeum, one instruments closest to the older forms of the Erhu. I don't think I would had played the Erhu if it had a sound like that.... LoL
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KenK Approved
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This is very interesting! Please look at "The Butterfly Lovers", notice at around 50 seconds you can see Xu Ke's qianjing is as close to the tuning pegs as possible! Perhaps this has something to do with the four octave range or the lower tuning. I'm very tempted to try this as an experiment. Any comments from the experts? KenK
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davidmdahl Approved
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Good eyes, Kenk. I had not noticed before how high the qianjing was set on Xu Xe's erhu. I am certainly not an expert, but as usual that does not prevent me from commenting. <g> The effect of the qianjing position so close to the pegs is a fairly wide scale. Normally this would complicate the fingering in the first and second positions, but for Xu Xe this is obviously no problem. In fact it seems to facilitate the sliding around he does. The real benefit of a wide scale would be when playing in the highest positions. This is a challenge when the qianjing is in a more normal position since the notes are so close together. I like the intensity of the sound he gets when playing in the high positions. I wonder if his strings are different than normal, and how they are tuned. Could he be using Erquan strings? Best wishes, David
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KenK Approved
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Hello All- I thought I'd mention that yesterday I moved my qianjing to about where Master Xu Ke has his. The first surprise was that my erhu seems louder like this. The second surprise is that although the longer scale will take some time to get used to, it doesn't seem terribly difficult. As a beginner (about 6 or 7 months now), my intonation is not so good yet. But I think this new position will work out ok for me. I have fairly large fingers, so the upper positions have been tricky for me. This makes the upper positions much better. I think I'll get good results from this experiment.. KenK
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Clyde Approved
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God BLess Last edited on Thu Jul 10th, 2008 07:09 am by Clyde |
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KenK Approved
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I thought I'd report that after a few days of practicing w/ this longer scale, I think it will be fine for me and I'll keep the Qian Jing in this new position. I'd also like to mention that I've been using the left little finger in way that most advanced players advise against. I think the traditional approach is to play most melody notes w/ the index, middle and ring, reserving the little finger for trills. I started using the little finger as normal part of my scale playing because: a) I'm a long time guitarist and this finger is already highly developed, and b) My open "A" string has a different brighter sound than any other note, so I trained myself to play the "A" note always on the "D" string. Thought this might be an interesting follow up. KenK
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huqiner Approved
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I have a CD of Xu Ke playing the 10 Liu Tianhua and 3 Abing pieces. This is Moon Night (Yue Ye) from the CD: http://huqinblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/yue-ye-moon-night.html Does anyone else think he plays it like a classical violin player?
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