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 Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2008 08:15 pm
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LOL,  It is great to see all of you having so much fun with this, Keep at it this was a lot of fun.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 01:16 am
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Oh dear,   I clicked the link you provided and got the message that...

"this article doesnt contain any information about this search word."    or something to that effect. 

I presume it worked for you when you were there?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 02:34 am
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thunderbird wrote: tansungwah wrote:
There is indeed a mistake when copying from the original sheet by Dennis Southwood.  The first 5 bars from the original sheet are written in the key of G and hence does not have a # next to the F notes.


Please see attached...."A" is the original...."B" is the copy...are they the same?...don't forget we are talking musical sameness here not "black-and-white" printing imagery ...before you jump to any conclusions...please look at the RED-CIRCLED #...what does that mean...I take it as your oversight.

If you insist to knock out the F major...please play the "A" or "B" sheet (they are the same anyway)...without F major for this piece...Aura Lee would not be Aura Lee any more.

So base on the attached exhibit #1...I say no mistakes have been committed by the acused in copying from the original....case closed.

A close-up exhibit #2 will be posted for closer examination!:):D:cheerleader::sleuth::cheerleader:

If you insist Bird, case closed.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 06:12 am
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Getting back on topic...

I found the backing track here http://jeanies_home_studio.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/rudolph_backing.mid

1 week of practice and it gets posted on youtube.  Rushing up against a deadline.  Christmas songs don't have that same effect after Christmas ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymhQ5__580




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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 06:27 am
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Here's another one.  The original score is played in E.

Play this in C just like the 12 girl band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSnMxEnkfXg

Does anyone have a backing track for this?


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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 02:57 pm
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tansungwah wrote:
thunderbird wrote: tansungwah wrote:
There is indeed a mistake when copying from the original sheet by Dennis Southwood.  The first 5 bars from the original sheet are written in the key of G and hence does not have a # next to the F notes.


Please see attached...."A" is the original...."B" is the copy...are they the same?...don't forget we are talking musical sameness here not "black-and-white" printing imagery ...before you jump to any conclusions...please look at the RED-CIRCLED #...what does that mean...I take it as your oversight.

If you insist to knock out the F major...please play the "A" or "B" sheet (they are the same anyway)...without F major for this piece...Aura Lee would not be Aura Lee any more.

So base on the attached exhibit #1...I say no mistakes have been committed by the acused in copying from the original....case closed.

A close-up exhibit #2 will be posted for closer examination!:):D:cheerleader::sleuth::cheerleader:

If you insist Bird, case closed.

SW


If you insist that Exhibit A is not the same as Exhibit B (please see attached)...then indeed my evidence-based discussion with you has to be ended.

I would not like to be accused without solid evidence... any claims have to be supported by concrete evidence!

And this is my final word on this particular issue!:) god bless!

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 03:01 pm
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Exhibit "B".

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 03:03 pm
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Karl ,  are you the same on youtube as Karl888  ?    the link you provided showed on the side that Karl888 has 3 entries there.   All 3 are very nice !  impressive where the 2 girls band plays so well together.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 03:18 pm
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Karl,  you mention the 12GB playing the theme from the titanic.  you mention playing it in C

so , I was searching through the notes on the erhu and find that I can start out the song on the D string  third finger,  believin this to be the G note  and written as #4  , and from there I can find all the notes.    And then I looked a little more and find I can also start the same song on the outer string ,  about the 6 1/2 note ,  is that a b sharp or a c flat?  are they one and the same?   and it fits there also.    which one is the one you refer to as "play in C"    wondering which string and note you start that song out with.    I havent learned the keys yet  .  basically I find that I can start the first note of the song in a couple locations.   I have a music teacher lined up but it will be a couple months yet before she is freed up to take me in.

anyone?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 03:24 pm
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oops,  I looked back and found that the theme starts out printed on dotted 1 

1=c     gotcha.

and then,  what the heck is it called where I found that it could be played starting on the #6 sharp  area.   that must have a name too.

just when I think I am making some headway.   did I mention that I am still quite new to this?  lol

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 03:36 pm
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dsouthwood wrote:
No wonder this is confusing. The first of the two links I posted shows the tune in the key of C, and the first note is C. The second link shows the tune in the key of G, and the first note is D. Trying it on my erhu, Tan Sung Wah's transcription in G works best for me. It also makes sense that the piece ends on the Tonic (the note with the same name as the key). Many older tunes used a different kind of scale called a Mode, and the modes were identified by the ending note of the tune. Here's more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_mode. In more recent times, Miles Davis and John Coltrane pioneered modal jazz.


Anyway, I apologize for my part in the confusion.

Dennis



Dennis,

I have no problem with anyone's preferences in playing Aura Lee in any Keys or in any other ways!

I truely don't think that you are responsible for this confusion!

Accusing me of making mistakes in copying from the original sheet without concret evidences is unacceptable!

Yes, it is difficult to keep a perfect balance between the need to be right and the need to face the fact!

I will not spend any of my precious time on such an issue anymore...but I thank you for posting those sites.

I am here for one reason...I love Erhu...and I assume... so are you!....god bless!

Bird

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 03:57 pm
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karl wrote:
Getting back on topic...

I found the backing track here http://jeanies_home_studio.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/rudolph_backing.mid

1 week of practice and it gets posted on youtube.  Rushing up against a deadline.  Christmas songs don't have that same effect after Christmas ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tymhQ5__580






Karl,

The two-girl band is lovely...the one on the right hand side seems very much into it...excellent!...are they relatives of yours?

I enjoy playing your "Rudolph"... even after X'mas...well...you know...X'mas is around the corner...only another 11 months or so.:):D

Thank you so much for your time and effort...much appreciated!

Bird

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 04:07 pm
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My small contribution to this post...a very easy and lovely old English tune.

Play it twice...even better to play this with a backing track.

I have the track but I am not sharing...too much work for me to share it with you guys.:):D

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 04:44 pm
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would this old English tune happen to have a name that you recall?

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It's actually an old German tune, "Die Kleine Honigbiene" (the little honeybee). It's one of the early pieces from my guzheng lessons, and I've been playing it on the erhu also. It's a good one to start with.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 05:54 pm
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thanks for the fast reply,   I might be able to track it down on the net with that info.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 4th, 2008 11:31 pm
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Exhibit A is clearly different from Exhibit B, although when you play they sound the same.  But Exhibit A is the correct one in relation to the rest of the piece which is in G key as well.  It's like wrong spelling.  Imagine spelling 'Candy' as 'Kandy'.  Sure they are both pronounced as Candy but you know the correct spelling is Candy.

Someone help me out here. Else this is my last post on this topic.


SW

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 Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 02:56 am
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Den wrote:
would this old English tune happen to have a name that you recall?

Den


I don't know the history of this song...literal translation from the title is "Rowing the little boat"...and on the right hand corner...4 characters printed in Chinese..."English children song"....that's all I can tell you!

The tune is very familiar to me...but I don't recall a thing about the origin of the song!

Hope you can follow dsouthwood's information and find out more for us!...I don't always trust those printed words:):D

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I have to admit that the sheet music I got the "Little Honeybee" title from was part of the guzheng lesson book that my teacher put together. It's all in her handwriting, and it has that title and then the word "German" in parentheses. Who knows where she got it. Maybe the Germans borrowed the tune from the English, or vice versa. At any rate, it is a cheerful little tune, and easy to play. At one of my recitals there was a duet of that tune on pipas played by two kids who were not much bigger than their instruments. It would be fun to play that as part of an ensemble of students.

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 Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 06:19 am
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Den wrote: oops,  I looked back and found that the theme starts out printed on dotted 1 

1=c     gotcha.

and then,  what the heck is it called where I found that it could be played starting on the #6 sharp  area.   that must have a name too.

just when I think I am making some headway.   did I mention that I am still quite new to this?  lol

Den


I think #6 is B.  I'm not aware of any songs written for erhu in B.  B flat maybe.

Don't play the flute intro.  Start with  1'  (first finger on outside 'A' string) on C.
when you play 7 slide first finger up and back down.  If you watch the 12GB youtube, you can see that.  You can also see them slide down with 1st finger when they play 2' I've written the 2 fingering below

fingering  1  1  1  1    1  1    1   1    2    3  4 3  2
notes       1' 1' 1' 1' | 7' 1' - 1' | 1' - 2' | 3' 4'3'  2'
12GB        1  1  1  1    1 1    1    1    1    2  3 4  2


If you can hit the right notes sliding around, you can try more sliding.  You get that sad erhu sound (to accompany the sinking ship:))

C is traditionally not the first key you learn to play.  But nonetheless, this is a very slow simple song.


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