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davidmdahl Approved
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The trouble with playing Aura Lee in the key of D, is that you will need to play it an octave up. The first note is an A, and the lowest A is the outside open string. That is not so difficult, but it is yet easier to play in the key of G. That way you can start on the inside string, the first note being "D" as in the score from http://www.8notes.com that Dennis posted. This is really a lot easier to do than to explain. Best wishes, David
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thunderbird Approved 
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davidmdahl wrote:The trouble with playing Aura Lee in the key of D, is that you will need to play it an octave up. The first note is an A, and the lowest A is the outside open string. That is not so difficult, but it is yet easier to play in the key of G. That way you can start on the inside string, the first note being "D" as in the score from http://www.8notes.com that Dennis posted. In response to your comments that "The notation for Aura Lee from thunderbird is in G rather than D", I am pointing out that it is not in G but rather it is in D. Please see attached (1=D)...after I transposed, I have no problem playing the tune in D...it is such an easy but delightful piece. I am puzzled by your comments...I suggest people play the piece in D key (1=D)...and find out for themselves if they would run into any problem. Since D key is so popular...I am sure every one knows how how to do it in D key...please follow the Chinese Erhu notations posted and give it a run. I have tested on a few people...it was a piece of cake! I agree that it is more fun to do it than ruminating about it!    Attachment: DSCN2711.jpg (Downloaded 117 times)
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tansungwah Approved 
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thunderbird wrote: davidmdahl wrote: Well, Aura Lee's suppose to be sung in this way: Sol Do Ti Do / Re La Re.....etc The way Bird's written it is: Do Fa Mi Fa / Sol Re Sol.... It's like we know 'Mary had a little lamb' is sung as Mi Re Do Re Mi Mi Mi, but we sing it as Ti La So La Ti Ti Ti. Although it sounds the same, but we know the former is the correct one. So knowing that Aura Lee should be Sol Do Ti Do / Re La Re....or in numeric notation 5(with dot below) 1 7(with dot below) 1 / 2 6(with dot below) 2..... we than find that G is the easiest key to play in, with the first note(5 with dot below) being the open inner string. Sung Wah
____________________ Chinese Music Instruments Online store: http://www.eason.com.sg Chinese Music Instruments Blog: http://TanSungWah.blogspot.com Online Erhu Course: http://LearnErhu.wordpress.com |
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davidmdahl Approved
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thunderbird wrote: In response to your comments that "The notation for Aura Lee from thunderbird is in G rather than D", I am pointing out that it is not in G but rather it is in D. Sorry, no it isn't. The key is indicated by the key signature by one sharp. The C in the tune is a natural, which in the key of D is a C#. The note a tune starts with does not indicate the key. If you are playing the tune by yourself, it does not matter what you call the key, or how it is notated. Having it straight does help though when you play with others. Best wishes, David
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davidmdahl Approved
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tansungwah wrote: So knowing that Aura Lee should be Sol Do Ti Do / Re La Re....or in numeric notation 5(with dot below) 1 7(with dot below) 1 / 2 6(with dot below) 2..... we than find that G is the easiest key to play in, with the first note(5 with dot below) being the open inner string. Good explanation, Sung Wah. Sometimes the solfege really helps. Best wishes, David
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tansungwah Approved
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Thanks David. I didn't know that was called Solfege. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solfege Sung Wah Last edited on Fri Feb 1st, 2008 04:58 pm by tansungwah ____________________ Chinese Music Instruments Online store: http://www.eason.com.sg Chinese Music Instruments Blog: http://TanSungWah.blogspot.com Online Erhu Course: http://LearnErhu.wordpress.com |
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woodstock Approved
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All this technical talk, you guys left me in the dust . My piano work book has "C" as the first note. When I tried to play it with the erhu set in "D" & "A", it did not sound the way it suppose to sound. That is why I re-tune it to "C" & "G". I just noticed that the first note in Thunderbird's score is "D". I can play the piece with the erhu set in "D" & "A" without any problem. David, Can you tell me how to the erhu fingering chart of the various keys in a bigger format. What I got from the other link that you supplied is too small. Thanks. Will
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davidmdahl Approved
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A tune in a particular key can start with just about any note, so a tune in D does not necessarily start with a D. It is common however for a tune to end on the same note as the key. For Aura Lee this is true. Notice that the version in the key of G ends on the note G. Not that this really helps you though. <g> I will look for a good readable erhu fingering chart. Best wishes, David
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thunderbird Approved
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tansungwah wrote:thunderbird wrote:davidmdahl wrote: I transposed according to the given piano notes ( previous posted sheet...first note is D)...thus, I played it on Erhu according to the given notes...please post the "should be" Aura Lee notes or better still...please post the "should be" erhu sheet music for reference purpose...I don't think we are on the same page at all! Waiting to see your Erhu music sheet in Key G base on the previous posted piano notes(first note D)...thank you! Bird Last edited on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 04:40 pm by thunderbird |
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thunderbird Approved
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davidmdahl wrote:thunderbird wrote:In response to your comments that "The notation for Aura Lee from thunderbird is in G rather than D", I am pointing out that it is not in G but rather it is in D. If you were to transpose the given piece (previous posted piano piece...first note in D)...how would you do it ?...please post...I would like to see the difference and perhaps can also enjoy playing your version! As I mentioned to Sung Wah...the resulting Chinese Erhu notation is a direct "translation" from the given piano notes...by the way...we have no problem playing it in group (1=D)...provided that everyone is on the same page (literally) Any way, I would appreciate it if you could post your transposition for that given piece (the piano piece that starts with a D note)...waiting to see your version!
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thunderbird Approved
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woodstock wrote:All this technical talk, you guys left me in the dust Your piano work book has "C" as the first note...the piece I transposed has "D" as the first note....no wonder it didn't sound right when you play my "translation"!. I was translating a given piece (first note is "D")...and if the first note of that piece is "D"....it would definitely sound very different from the piece (first note "C") from your work book. People can play "Aura Lee" whichever way they want...I don't really give a hoot  ...people say Aura Lee is best played by certain Keys....be my guest...they are entitled to their expert opinions Anyway, since you have no problem playing the translated piece (1=D)...according to the given piano piece (first note is "D")...my job is done...if you have any more pieces...please post...I enjoyed playing those little good-old-time tunes on Erhu...they are delightful creatures!  Last edited on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 05:08 pm by thunderbird |
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thunderbird Approved
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In case no one knows what I meant by "the given piano piece...first note is D"...I have attached the exact piece...please translate the attached (verbatim) for us...thank you! Attachment: Fill-in -the -blank.jpg (Downloaded 101 times)
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tansungwah Approved
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thunderbird wrote: tansungwah wrote: The piano sheet seems to be erronous. The first 5 bars is written in the key of C but it changes to G key after that. The first 5 bars is written by hand while the rest is in printed form so I guess a mistake could have been made there. Anyway, pushed back my bedtime by another 30mins to do this.  Last edited on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 05:55 pm by tansungwah ____________________ Chinese Music Instruments Online store: http://www.eason.com.sg Chinese Music Instruments Blog: http://TanSungWah.blogspot.com Online Erhu Course: http://LearnErhu.wordpress.com |
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thunderbird Approved
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tansungwah wrote:thunderbird wrote:tansungwah wrote: The piano sheet was obtained from site http://www.8notes.com/scores/3176.asp?ftype=gif posted by dsouthwood on Jan 29th, 2008...there is no mistake in copying the first 5 bars from the original sheet...please go to the site and confirm my words if you think there is a need! Thanks for giving us another version to play with...tell your wife that thunderbird is responsible for the missing 30 minutes...my appreciation for your time! Last edited on Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 07:49 pm by thunderbird |
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tansungwah Approved
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There is indeed a mistake when copying from the original sheet by Dennis Southwood. The first 5 bars from the original sheet are written in the key of G and hence does not have a # next to the F notes.
____________________ Chinese Music Instruments Online store: http://www.eason.com.sg Chinese Music Instruments Blog: http://TanSungWah.blogspot.com Online Erhu Course: http://LearnErhu.wordpress.com |
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thunderbird Approved
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tansungwah wrote:There is indeed a mistake when copying from the original sheet by Dennis Southwood. The first 5 bars from the original sheet are written in the key of G and hence does not have a # next to the F notes. Please see attached...."A" is the original...."B" is the copy...are they the same?...don't forget we are talking musical sameness here not "black-and-white" printing imagery ...before you jump to any conclusions...please look at the RED-CIRCLED #...what does that mean...I take it as your oversight. If you insist to knock out the F major...please play the "A" or "B" sheet (they are the same anyway)...without F major for this piece...Aura Lee would not be Aura Lee any more. So base on the attached exhibit #1...I say no mistakes have been committed by the acused in copying from the original....case closed. A close-up exhibit #2 will be posted for closer examination!   Attachment: Combined copy & original.jpg (Downloaded 97 times)
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thunderbird Approved
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Exhibit #2 Attachment: Red circled close-up.jpg (Downloaded 97 times)
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thunderbird Approved
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I will try to make exhibit #1 larger for better viewing!: Attachment: Combined copy & original.jpg (Downloaded 96 times)
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thunderbird Approved
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