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 Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 05:05 pm
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Page 3 of "Horse Racing":shock::):D:cool:

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 Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 05:07 pm
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Good luck in riding those wild horses!:2smiledevil::horsepoop::laugh-rock:

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 Posted: Sun Jan 27th, 2008 07:18 pm
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It would be helpful to have yourself sat in a good leather saddle while playing this piece...it is such an emotional piece!:laugh-rock::laugh-rock:

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 Posted: Mon Jan 28th, 2008 02:54 pm
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Den,

I just realized today that you have sent me a message titled "Numeric score" on Dec 28, 2007...for some unknow reasons, I can't open it.:(

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 Posted: Tue Jan 29th, 2008 12:23 am
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gotcha,   it would be the same photo as the first item of page 2 of this topic.  and the title  found for it is "believe me if all those endearing young charms"

I retrieved it from the sent mail,  by highlighting the score and saving picture as.  and then needed to rename that file with a   .jpg extension,   and then it opened.

weird .

I think I had posted a youtube url for that piece,  a terrific presentation by a guy over in ireland or england.

Den

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 Posted: Tue Jan 29th, 2008 08:38 pm
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I just came across a basic tune that I used to practice when I took piano lessons and I thought it would be nice to play it on the erhu.  It is called "Aura Lee".  I believe that Elvis Presley used this tune as the intro to his hit "Love Tender".  It is only 16 measures long.  Maybe somebody in the erhu community can transcribe it into numbers.  I tried to attach the music score with this post but I keep getting an error msg.

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Here's a link to sheet music for Aura Lee that also has numbers above some of the notes. With that as a start, you should be able to fill in the rest. The second link is to a more complete score; the first one doesn't have the whole melody.

http://www.pitt.edu/~deben/0AuraLee.pdf

http://www.8notes.com/scores/3176.asp?ftype=gif

Thanks for your post. I had forgotten all about that song. It seems that every time we had singing in class in grade school, that was one of the songs. Then when I was a freshman in high school, I found myself dancing to Elvis's version of the tune. I'm definitely going to be doing that on my erhu, and I think it will go well on my guzheng, too.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 02:51 pm
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Dennis,

The numbers on the first link are the numbers for the fingers on the key board.  If you look up at the key board diagram you will notice that the middle C is finger number 1 (the thumb). I think we have to look elsewhere for what we are looking for.  Thanks.

Will

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 Posted: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 03:33 pm
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The sheet music is in the key of C. The numbers are arranged so that 1=C. I don't see the problem.

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I don't see the problem either. With the staff score, a sheet of paper and pen, you can write out the jianpu notation in less time than we have been writing about it.

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 Posted: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 08:17 pm
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Thanks for response.   I guess I have to read up on jianpu.   I took piano for two years and I can play the piano (given enough time).  But when it comes to theory, I am musically illiterate.  I guess it is one of those mental block thing. 

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Don't let the jianpu intimidate you, Will. If you have a handle on the staff notation from your piano days, the jianpu will be a piece of cake. Just identify the scale degree of each note. In the key of C, the note C is 1, D is 2, E is 3, and so on. This is done for you in the first link that Dennis posted. Even though the numbers are actually fingerings, they also work for the position in a C scale. To play the tune on erhu in the key of D, just consider that 1 = D.

There is a good article on jianpu on http://www.wikipedia.org. Let us know of any specific questions you have, and someone will help.

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woodstock wrote:
I just came across a basic tune that I used to practice when I took piano lessons and I thought it would be nice to play it on the erhu.  It is called "Aura Lee".  I believe that Elvis Presley used this tune as the intro to his hit "Love Tender".  It is only 16 measures long.  Maybe somebody in the erhu community can transcribe it into numbers.  I tried to attach the music score with this post but I keep getting an error msg.

D=1:):D....nice tune!:2bigthumb:

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Some time ago I created cheat sheets for transposing Western notation to jiangpu. For each key signature they show what number corresponds to which note on the staff. Check them out at my Flickr site, http://www.flickr.com/photos/dsouthwood/.

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The notation for Aura Lee from thunderbird is in G rather than D, so don't let that confuse you, Will. In this case G = 1, and the low (inside) string is 5 with a dot underneath. Notated in G, no accidentals are necessary. so the b7 on the last line would be just 7.

Clear as mud?

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David,

You are mistaken me as a musician :).  You are over my head.  What are accidentals?  At any rate, I thought the erhu has to be tuned "D" & "A".  With this set up and when I played "Aura Lee", it didn't sound anywhere near what it suppose to be.   It finally hit me that I might to re-tune it to "C" & "G".  After re-tune it, it sounded so much like the tune I used to hear.   Oh yes, I how do I play the b flat.

Will

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Here's a link to some fingering charts for the different keys: http://starvoid.proboards30.com/index.cgi?board=Erhu&action=display&thread=1139000005.
Retuning carries the danger of breaking a string, so it's best to leave the erhu tuned to D and A and use the different fingering for other keys. The strings stay the same pitch; the charts show you where the notes fall on the strings in different keys. That just means that in the key of G, note #1 is higher up on the inner string.

In my lessons, the first key I learned was D, of course, since the first note is on the open inner string and that's the easiest scale to play. Next I learned a tune using the G scale, and most recently I've learned the F scale. F is the coolest by far, and the most powerful in many ways. It is best for tunes that are purely pentatonic, meaning that you don't play the 4 and 7 notes at all, and only occasionally do you play the #3 note on the inner string rather than the open outer string. "Kang Ding Love Song" is excellent in F, for example.


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woodstock wrote: David,

You are mistaken me as a musician :).  You are over my head.  What are accidentals?  At any rate, I thought the erhu has to be tuned "D" & "A".  With this set up and when I played "Aura Lee", it didn't sound anywhere near what it suppose to be.   It finally hit me that I might to re-tune it to "C" & "G".  After re-tune it, it sounded so much like the tune I used to hear.   Oh yes, I how do I play the b flat.

Will


Sorry for the lack of clarity. An accidental is a note that lays outside of the key signature. In the key of D, there are two sharps in the key signature, F# and C#. If there is a C natural in the tune, a natural sign is printed just to the left of the note in the score. In the key of G, there is only one sharp in the key signature, F#. No natural sign is needed to indicate a note of C natural, but if a C# is needed, a #(sharp) symbol is printed to the left of the note.

The D/A tuning is indeed the most common for the erhu, although you can also tune the strings a step lower to C/G. I have music books for both tunings. Sticking with the D/A tuning for the purposes of our discussion, you can still play in any key. All that is necessary is to remap the jianpu on the strings. In the key of D, the low open string sounds "1". In the key of G, the low open string sounds "5." (5 with a dot underneath). To play "1" in the key of G, you need to move down the string a little.

Best wishes,

David

 

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dsouthwood wrote:  F is the coolest by far, and the most powerful in many ways. It is best for tunes that are purely pentatonic, meaning that you don't play the 4 and 7 notes at all, and only occasionally do you play the #3 note on the inner string rather than the open outer string. "Kang Ding Love Song" is excellent in F, for example.


I agree! I love playing in F. The Kang Ding Love Song is beautiful. Unfortunately, F is not convenient for some other Chinese instruments and my teacher's ensemble plays it in G.

Best wishes,

David

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woodstock wrote:
David,

You are mistaken me as a musician :).  You are over my head.  What are accidentals?  At any rate, I thought the erhu has to be tuned "D" & "A".  With this set up and when I played "Aura Lee", it didn't sound anywhere near what it suppose to be.   It finally hit me that I might to re-tune it to "C" & "G".  After re-tune it, it sounded so much like the tune I used to hear.   Oh yes, I how do I play the b flat.

Will


Will,

Hahahahaha....why don't you just play that tune in D and see if you run into any problem...I played it in D...and I didn't run into any problem...I assume your inner string is tuned to D and your outer string is A...pretty standard...right?!...I enjoyed playing the tune...thanks for the good time!:):D:cool:

Bird

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