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 Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2008 03:57 am
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dsouthwood wrote: Whenever one of my students said, "I can't do that," I told them that they were missing a word. The correct sentence is, "I can't do that yet."
This is good!



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 Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 04:23 am
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Here's another fast hand playing the same thing:

http://tansungwah.blogspot.com/2008/10/two-videos-from-shanghai-music-fair.html

Don't be mistaken, I like traditional stuff. But seeing technically gifted players play at blazing speeds always gives me the rush.

SW

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 Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 07:06 am
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tansungwah wrote:
Don't be mistaken, I like traditional stuff. But seeing technically gifted players play at blazing speeds always gives me the rush.



But the music is so empty for me. What is the point of all those notes? There is a lot more soul in the matouqin music in the second clip. I would definitely love to have technical mastery, but I like to think it would go to the service of better music.

I would love to play like Yu Qiwei. The music is so good that his mastery is not so obvious, or rather in-your-face.

Best wishes,

David

 

 

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 Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 05:05 pm
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david..the music sounds empty because you cant hear the backing music...and the sound quality is bad. Given proper sound system, one can then truly appreciate the difficulty in that kind of erhu playing.

I appreciated it.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 06:06 pm
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Oh, I appreciate the difficulty of the music, and admire the player for his accomplishment. I don't particularly appreciate music that is flashy for the sake of being flashy. In food terms, these are empty calories. This music turns playing the erhu into an Olympic athletic event, rather than artistic and expressive one. High-end violinists can make music out of it, but it takes a lot of artistry.

People of good taste may disagree with me about Zigeunerweisen, so I hope my comments do not reduce anyone's enjoyment of the music.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 05:10 am
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I love expressive erhu players when they play those moving slow pieces too. People with extraodinary skills CAN make the humble erhu sound with tons of expression regardless whether it's super fast passges or not.

If someone says that playing fast will automatically means
'no expression', I think that's totally inaccurate. There ARE fast pieces that sound amazingly expressive on erhu.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 10:33 am
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I knew you like soulful stuff so I posted the matouqin clip specially for you David.

I just wish the guy would stop chewing gum while he's at it.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 02:27 pm
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here is one that is "intricate"  

I know that lots of erhu traditionalists do not favor the twelve girls band  but aside from that ,  they do a splendid job of this song.   although not as fast as some of the above mentioned,  it still clicks along faster than my ear can memorize.

and I see absolutely nothing wrong with erhu breaking from tradition when such a beautiful piece such as this can be performed this well.

click the following link and have a listen...  the 2 part harmony is mesmorizing !

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgvHp8jKQ6w

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 Posted: Sun Nov 2nd, 2008 04:01 am
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Den, they made chinese instruments known on a large scale to the world. Before that, people's perception is that they are meant only for folk songs.

12 girl band have given chinese instruments world wide recognition. It's always more interesting to see many chicks playing on stage than many dudes on stage. Even my straight female friends prefer to watch chicks on stage.

Maybe that's also another reason why people enjoy watching 12 girl band?

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 Posted: Sun Nov 2nd, 2008 04:09 am
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Bach would never have imagined that his pieces will be played on Erhu. If only he knew.

Last edited on Sun Nov 2nd, 2008 04:13 am by Shanghai Angels

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 Posted: Sun Nov 2nd, 2008 05:50 am
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Bach can be played on just about anything and sound good. I enjoyed the performance of two girls playing erhu, but could have done without the rhythm section.

Best wishes,

David 

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 Posted: Sun Nov 2nd, 2008 04:29 pm
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David, I can see that you are more of a 'purist'. *wink*

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I'm also a purist if it comes to that. I enjoy the 12 Girls Band, and I think they have done a good thing by exposing so many people to traditional instruments. Maybe they will lead some people to investigate the originals after hearing the 12GB version.
There's a precedent: In the 1980s, K-Tel issued a number of "Hooked on Classics" LPs that also put a heavy beat to classical selections. There is also a long tradition of making popular songs from classical compositions. Wikipedia has a list at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Melodia/List_of_popular_songs_based_on_classical_music

But all things considered, I prefer my Bach without the training wheels.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 10:45 am
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Hello,

I am new to this site and saw your post of Oct 2007 regards teaching yourself erhu when no teacher nearby. (Am in northern Vermont) Did you have success, and any suggestions?

Thanks

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Nightsound,
 
        There are many ways of learning or teaching yourself how to play the Erhu and many have been very successful as well.
If you are dedicated and willing to put in the time and practice all the information is out there and many videos and links right here on this sight alone so the question of how successful one would be really is a mater of how bad one wants to learn.
Now if you want I could send you some starting materials and a few good tips on starting the rest is up to you.
Just send me your email address in a PM to me here and I will get back to you as soon as I can.
 
Gob Bless

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 Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 03:16 am
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welcome nightsound. I hope Clyde was able to point you in the right direction. if you have any other queries please feel free to leave a post.

how's everyone doing? its been quiet lately....

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 Posted: Sat Dec 13th, 2008 11:58 pm
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Wow...just finished reading these 19 pages. Although my erhu won't be here until Tuesday, I feel that I've learned a lot already just reading through. Too bad many of Clydes posts are gone. I sense that lots of valuable comments are now gone. BUT he did email me many things of which I'm VERY greatful!! Thank you!



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