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ezFolk Forums > Local Music > Students Looking for Teachers > Any Tsugaru Shamisen Teachers in the New York City area? |
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AllenZ Approved 
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Hi gagaters, Actually its quite hard to attain one online. Like how Tsugaru says, you would need to know a good deal of Japanese to haggle with the stores to actually ship such an expensive fragile instrument to you, most of them are afraid of international trade laws and customs regarding different parts of the Shamisen. Since the shamisen is either made out of cat or dog, and the picks are made from tortoise shells. Ebay has some vintage Shamisens, but I wouldn't easily buy from there unless you know how to pick one. They are not sold by Shamisen players so they are even more unclear of the real condition it is in. Best is to buy from either a Shamisen player that knows what they are selling to you, or a store in Japan in my opinion.
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gagaters Approved 
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To Tsugaru: yeah, so far I am able to fnid it only on ebay, which they are models I dont want, I am lookign for the models you gus have the Tsugaru. And for your you ar seeling, do you mind shiping it to Australia? or not... lol, of course I will pay for shipment and yhae how much you seeling it for? and a picture fo it would be nice to ^_^ To AllenZ: True, it might be a bit ahrd to get it into Austrlia, thats why when I go to the Melbounre City, I am going to look around the Japanese Area of it and look for the Tsugaru Shamisen, but yeah, I just hope that I am able to find a shop that I could buy one, or even ORDER one in from Japan... I wonder O.o but yeah, thansk for replying, most people ignore me ^_^ and yeah I will reply ASAP and would you guys by any chance know the song title to this song on the Shamisen? http://youtube.com/watch?v=bNmi3KIojtI Thanks for that to if you can answer that ^_^
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Tsugaru Approved 
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I believe the song title is --Tsugaru-Jonkara Bushi As for price, Private Message me and I will let you know. I will upload pictures in min. This is what it looks like. Private Message me your email address and I can upload a series of pictures in better detail, close ups etc. I wouldn't mind shipping down under either. All the best Attachment: st3.jpg (Downloaded 35 times)
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AllenZ Approved
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Hi gagaters, Yeah, well I know there's more than just us that learning or trying to learn Tsugaru in the United States or elsewhere, its just that people aren't willing to share or communication with each other. Before I tried e-mailing or contacting these other Tsugaru players and they all ignored me too. So I know how you feel. Funny thing about Ebay, I just search for Shamisen and I can't believe the conditions they are selling it. Of the three auctions I see this week, let me give your my opinions on it : =============================================================
So gagaters, I would stay out of Ebay for now. Good luck on your search!
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gagaters Approved
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To Tsugaru: Done ^_^ and its blue XD OWSEOME COLOR XD To AllenZ: Well, it is kind of sad to hear that, I guess people this dyas are jsut greedy and dont wanan shar anything =[ and thanks for those tips, I will stick to my connections than Ebay, becuas soemtime I cant believe ebay lol... ^_^ but yeha thanks for the tips once again and I found antoerh vidoe clip, and wanna know what the song is called here is clip http://youtube.com/watch?v=qWJrMA3zJ5o&feature=related Thanks once again ^_^
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AllenZ Approved
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Hi gagaters, Yeah, sometimes there's some really good deals at Ebay tho', but you gotta have some existing knowledge like me to see which ones are the studs and the duds. As your question regarding the performances, its mostly 津軽じょんから節 (Tsugaru Jonkara Bushi). You might ask why is it always called that, but it sounds the same.... Tsugaru Jonkara is always improvised, during the nationals. Like the previous clip before, you can heard aspects of 津軽よされ節 (Tsugaru Yosare Bushi) & 津軽あいや節 (Tsugaru Aiya Bushi). So its mostly all called Tsugaru Jonkara with these tunes except when its something specific like りんご節 (Ringo Bushi) or 嘉瀬の奴踊り (Kaze no Yakko Odori). It might be confusing but just think improvisation. I usually slap on some Yosare Bushi with Tsugaru Rokudan for my improvisation and its also called Tsugaru Jonkara Bushi.
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gagaters Approved
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To AllenZ: heeh yeah it true, Ebay is pretty cheap, but the product isnt always in the best of condtion, and if it is, its lke the Retail price ^_^ lol and thanks fo that, I am going to try to find this Sheet music (If possible) somewhere and try to learn it when I get a Tsugaru Shamisen, lol, but not sure were to look ofr the sheet music XD um hehe, I am a tad bit confused about the whole "Bushi" prat, does eash song have there own "Bushi"? lol, I am new to this instrument so I wont kow that much of it lol but yeah Thanks for everyhting ^_^ Eddie
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AllenZ Approved
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Hey gagaters, Sorry for the late response, just been busy at work these days. Well, about Ebay Shamisens, its sad that people throw money in without knowing what they buy. Like this Redwood Nagauta I see up there around $699 USD. Yes, the wood quality is good since its Kouki (Redwood), but Redwood itself as in many classes. You can easily get a NEW Redwood Nagauta for around $1200. The Nagauta on Ebay in question will need at least $685 USD (its a real rate I pulled from a Japanese site)at its serious damaged Tenjin state.... See why the previous owner abandoned this Shamisen at the first place? You are better off to buy a new one if the damages are too expensive. Redwood is always more expensive to repair since they would need another piece of expensive redwood to use in the repair. As for music sheet, I say you would have to get them from books. The Japanese aren't that friendly in sharing scores, some just don't want to share, others are afraid if they share it online, they'll get hit by copyright lawyers. Yeah, those guys love to sue too. It's not like how easy we can find Guitar Tabs everywhere and stuff. LoL 'Bushi' can be loosely translated as score, they also use the same word for a stanza of a poem. Just ignore that. LoL As for these 'Bushi', its different by every school and performer so don't get too confused when you see two with the same name but sounds differently. Even like a widely known song, "Rokudan" is alittle different with every performer.
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AllenZ Approved
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AllenZ wrote: Hey gagaters, *Update*
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gagaters Approved
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Hey AllenZ, dont worry, if I get a late response, I don’t care better late then never ^_^ that what I always say lol but anywhom, O_O WOO... that is a lot $2039 woo, lol poor guy/girl XD they have no clue how much they spent, especial if its second hand -_-' was it? lol Redwood, I see... so is it the same as a Shamisen Tsugaru? or different? I think it may be a different kind of Shamisen yeah? XD lol just checking And the music sheet books... are they easy to find? lol, I think should start to buy some now, just you know, when I get it I can yeah XD lol, Oh I am learning Japanese now, so I believe that when i translate the words and etc... is SHOULD be easy XD lol WOO hehe hai? or iie? ROFL, Bushi, still confuses me -_-' BUT whatever, I will follow your instructions, I will ignore it XD lol Oh and Before I forget I wont be on for QUITE A WHILE, maybe like... one month minimum XD lol, I got exams in about 1 week and a half, SOOO I will be studying for a while, so yeah Hope you guys don’t miss me ROFL lol yeah but any whom see you guys later gagaters
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gagaters wrote: Hey AllenZ, dont worry, if I get a late response, I don’t care better late then never ^_^ that what I always say lol but anywhom, O_O WOO... that is a lot $2039 woo, lol poor guy/girl XD they have no clue how much they spent, especial if its second hand -_-' was it? lol Hi gagaters, Redwood is only a wood class. Redwood is valued more over Karin (Quince which most Shamisens are made from) because it takes longer to grow and its more dense in material. As for sound, really I don't know what differences it make, sounds mostly the same to me, but it makes more sense to have denser wood for Tsugaru so the vibrations are better. Otherwise, concert level or not, I think depends on the quality of the animal skin more than the wood. The wood is just for looks in most case I think. Nagauta has a more mellow and crisp version of Tsugaru's tone, so the sound is different. However, you can still play it on a Nagauta, it will just sound less dynamic. But the funny thing is that you can't do the same with Jiuta, something about that type that doesn't click right with Tsugaru or Nagauta sounds. LoL I think they call Redwood Shamisens as concert class because its just better wood. Actually for Nagauta, I really don't think it makes a difference, it does not require denser because you want a crisp sound. Even professional geishas only use regular Karin wood for their Shamisen, so I guess Redwood & Purple Sandalwood is just a gimic for Nagautas. Basically there's three types of wood (I'll post a picture). From left to right: Karin (Quince), Shitan (Rosewood), Kouki (Redwood) Quince grows the fastest so there's plenty to make Shamisen out of it. It doesn't change shape easily and is strong. That's why most Shamisens are made by it. Rosewood is a rare type these days, in my opinion, this should be more valuable than Redwood since it takes long to grow Rosewood. It's so rare to find Rosewood Shamisens these days, most of the ones out there are vintage. Redwood is just more dense and hard. As for Japanese scores, you have more chance finding them in books. The Japanese are anal with copyright laws and they would sue you in a blink. For "bushi" just think of it as "The Ballad of.....", don't think too much of it. Attachment: syamisen_sozai.gif (Downloaded 22 times)
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Michael62 Member
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hi there. I'm just wondering if you had any luck tracking down a shamisen in Melbourne? My son is very keen to get one and start learning. Many thanks, Mike.
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