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 Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 10:39 pm
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Cool. I have a few Nagauta Kabuki scores such as Kanjincho & Musume Dojoji, maybe I'll pick up some pointers from her too.



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 Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 02:15 am
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AllenZ wrote: Wooh, I can't wait.

Even if the instructor doesn't teaches Tsugaru ask him or her if she knows any Tsugaru Instructors in NYC~

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Hey, here's a gift. I just figured out how simple the intro to "that song" is.... *Don't write the band's name or the song's name on the message board so search engines can pick it up here.  Just in case we might get in trouble with copyrights and all that mumble jumble..... the Japanese don't kid with that stuff *

I was just messing around and I stumble on figuring out the tune. LoL

I know some of the new Tsugaru learners aren't into the traditional tunes so you can practice this song too. We can work on the rest of the songs when we get better. So have fun~! Damn I hate typing scores.

That's great i love this song.  You got me sounding like Yoshida Brothers haha

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 Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 12:20 am
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Any specific points that Mariko touched upon when she was teaching you that you think is useful?



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 Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 03:31 am
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Sure, she gave history of the instrument, and how the shamisen is used in kabuki.   She also played the taiko for me, and showed the proper form to play.  She mentioned that there is no sheet music allowed during a performance.  All musicians must have their parts memorized and perfected.  If one musician messes up a note, the whole performance can go out of sync.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 03:40 am
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Eh, standard intro class material.... nothing you couldn't have learn from the first 3 pages of your Shamisen manual.... LoL



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 Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 04:07 am
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haha, right!  But she did show me how to strike the strings.  thats the part that I hold back the most.  Im used to having guiter strings pop, and the way you have to strike is  someting else.

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I totally get what you mean, but don't worry, the silks strings don't break that easily because it has been tempered.

Well, you should worry about the 3 string.... I had it snapped in my face more than once, but that was because I didn't know those strings are heavily affected by the humidity. It was in the summer and I alway practiced when got back from work, I always pumped up the A/C all way when I do that, from experience I found that the strings can't really take it.

I was reading Kinoshita Shinichi's book, they call it the strings catching a cold. It screws up the tone and makes it more breakable.

But I would worry about the toy like bachi breaking more. Invest in a mixed fiber or a cheap bekkou one.



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 Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 04:02 am
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AllenZ wrote: I totally get what you mean, but don't worry, the silks strings don't break that easily because it has been tempered.

Well, you should worry about the 3 string.... I had it snapped in my face more than once, but that was because I didn't know those strings are heavily affected by the humidity. It was in the summer and I alway practiced when got back from work, I always pumped up the A/C all way when I do that, from experience I found that the strings can't really take it.

I was reading Kinoshita Shinichi's book, they call it the strings catching a cold. It screws up the tone and makes it more breakable.

But I would worry about the toy like bachi breaking more. Invest in a mixed fiber or a cheap bekkou one.

Thanks for the tips.  Yeah i don't have silk strings i have the nylon ones.  But i understand what you mean, just watching tsugaru playes on you tube will show you this.  I saw your music book on ebay, it has some good songs in it.  What don't you like about it?

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How they arranged the songs.... I don't know what school's instructor wrote it, but I seen better arrangements.... they make the most simple song become the most complex. The worst thing is that it doesn't even sound better.

But I would get it for reference sake.



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 Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 03:06 pm
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hmm could you recomend a  better book? Also how do you know when you really strike if it's all in Japanese?

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I could but its not on Ebay.

As for Japanese, lets just say I'm a big company's operations manager for the Japan region and I have been certified by Columbia's JLPT. Not to mention, I have a lot of other books with the same songs but in better arrangements.

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 Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 01:52 am
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Im not sure if im spelling this right?!?!   watashi wa nihongoka sukoshiwa wakadema

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LoL. Close, but don't worry about. It's not a Japanese contest or anything. It's all about music, the international music.

So how goes with your practice? Are you working on those music sheets Mariko gave you? Which pieces are you learning?

If you have nothing, I can type out a small Tsugaru execerise for you.



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It was that bad huh? haha  I have been practicing sakura and three other songs. I am not sure of the names or tempo of these songs but its still fun.  I am also figuring out how to play with my left hand without bachi.  I see that style in a few tsugaru songs on you tube.  But yes, I would greatly appreciate some tsugaru music to practice. This will give us something to play when we meet up.

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Ummm... left hand without bachi? You mean the 打ち指 (Uchi Yubi) tone where you hit the on a position for a tone? Its quite simple if someone explains it to you.

This song has 押しばち (Sliding Down) & はじく (Finger Pluck). Here's an quick explanation if Mariko didn't really teach you these standard techniques (they use these in Nagauta Shamisen too).

1. 押しばち: Don't lift your bachi when you hit the first key. In the song, then you hit open string on the 2nd line, just slide it down to 3rd string's 3 position.

2. はじく: In the song, leave your hand on the third position and pluck down on the string with your Ring finger. Don't pluck too hard or the sound would be too sharp.

If you see Mariko again this week, ask her about it. I'm pretty sure she can help you play it.

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Hi,
I live in NY and for the past 5 or 6 months i've been really interested in Tsugaru shamisen and have not been able to find a teacher. Even though you are not a master any info on shamisen would be helpful. could you possibly come to my house(near Lincoln Center) and give me a lesson i have no tsugaru  but i do have a  others kinds  of shamisen which someone told me they woulb be fine with the abuse a tsugaru takes. if it is inconviniant to come over to my house just sending info that can help get me started would be helpful.

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Sure. If you're willing to listen, I'm willing to share. But I don't do the house thing. So I'm planning to meet with Tsugaru in the park or outside of Starbucks or something.

Actually, what kind of Shamisen do you have? Nagauta or Jiuta? I know the term Shamisen is thrown around a lot, and some have confused a Okinawa Sanshin with one.

In addition, do you have the basics of Shamisen down yet? Like using the bachi, reading the 3 line score, スリ (sliding), スクイ (Reverse pick). If not, you might want to contact Tsugaru, the other guy on the board because he's picking foundation Shamisen techniques from a regular instructor.

Meanwhile, check out what I have posted so far and ask me if there's any questions.



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Thanks for the reply,
I have no knowledge with shamisen. The style i want to learn is Tsugaru Shamisen(the kind the Yoshida Bros. play). I have played Okinawa Sanshin since Augoust. Do you know of any professional teachers that could teach me the basics of Tsuagaru all the way to advenced things?
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Ha! If I knew a Tsugaru Teacher, I wouldn't have create this topic board in the first place.

If you want to learn regular Shamisen basics, you can google Masayo Ishigure and take lessons from her. I believe she's an Jiuta expert.

I don't know what your friend says, but you can not play Tsugaru on a Sanshin or a Cat Skin Shamisen (Well, you can but it will break easily, not to mention the tones are off).

I suggest you pick up some lessons with Sensei Ishigure for the basics.



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Yes, I kind of get what you’re saying.  I haven’t really found any Tsugaru books on amazon.jp.  Do you remember where you picked up yours (if online of course) and could you post a link?  I’m really looking forward to trying out some Tsugaru scores:bluelight:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Jqr_2hU4tY

have you ever seen the movie Nitabon?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ncqm2ANTqss

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