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 Posted: Thu Oct 19th, 2006 01:14 am
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This is a guitar tract, as we discussed. It's as steady a beat as I can do without a metronome. It's in A-major.



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 Posted: Thu Oct 19th, 2006 01:51 am
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Ok, I've got it, it should make a nice contrast with the octave or so higher fiddle. To work!!

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 Posted: Fri Oct 20th, 2006 03:13 am
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Hi Phil,

Figuring there was strength in numbers, I went with the "wall of sound" approach and added four tracks (fretless banjo, fiddle, banjolin [or was that a manjo?], and tenor banjo).  I debated beating on the kitchen sink, but it's currently out of tune.  And then I changed the title to "Bury Me Real Deep," figuring that's what I had done with each individual track.

Bury Me Real Deep (Folk-Traditional)  
 
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 Posted: Fri Oct 20th, 2006 11:23 am
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Lyle!!!

Wow, what fun. Sounds like half the music I played growing up. Really good stuff.And you achieved a nice balance too. Talk to us on how you did it, please.



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Suggestion and suggested expiriment:
I really like the sound of Lyle's tracks. But a thought occurred to me that I want to share. What we are evolving is a form of polyphony (not that doesn't mean we can marry a lot of women). With every track playing at once, it makes mixing and riding the gain tricky.

What I would like see if it makes a difference, is to do it again with the guitar backup but individual instruments (fiddle, maybe different fiddlers, banjos, maybe more than one banjo picker) mandolins going in and out, one at a time (...I wish we had a bass). Swapping solos.

Lyle...are your tracks separate? If so, I'll take a whack at mixing them. The guitar backup is 2:40 but by cutting a smidge off the front and rear and looping it, I can easily (easily?) give us a 5:20 second field to romp in.

When I get home this evening, I do something to illustrate what I'm blathering about.




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Yeah, I guess I'm not very good at following directions.  Or as I said in another forum on ezFolk: "As playing clawhammer banjo is mostly about not following directions (who actually plays tabs the way they are written?), it's to be expected that I wouldn't follow the directions for this question."

But fortunately I did save a copy as multiple tracks.  So on my ezFolk page there are now four separate *.mp3s.  They are easy to find.  Just go to "charts" on my page and they should be at the absolute bottom (I'm not expecting them to "climb the charts")

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I've copied them and sent them home. I'll try to open them this evening.

Curious thing happened when I did the guitar part. I tuned to pitch with an electronic device, the kind you clip to the tuning board. Well, the software (Audition) has it's own idea about pitch. And it didn't agree with the tuner. It let's you force a change in pitch but at a price. When I hit the button to force intoit's version A-Major, it did so, but the timing went into the crapper. Everything slowed down to a painful distortion. It may have been a true pitch (or not), but it was useless noise. There was a bailout undo feature as well (phew).



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Thanks Phil, I'll take those off my page pretty soon.  As stand alones they're kind of odd.

Speaking of odd, that's strange about Audition changing the timing.  I use Audacity (yeah, I've seen gripes about it on ezFolk, but the price [at 0$] is right), and for tuning I have the software generate an "A" 440 and then match the pitch.  I don't have an electronic tuner, but when I've borrowed ones from friends I feel more like I'm playing pinball than like I'm tuning an instrument.

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"Presenting the Lyle Koningsberg String band, featuring Lyle Konigsberg, Lyle Konigsberg, Phil J, Lyle Konigsberg, and, oh yeah, Lyle Konigsberg!"

Talk about tight-knit jams! Great, Lyle, now I don't wanna do my fiddle part :( - but I will!

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"Tight knit jam" is exactly right. To remix this, leaving room for more people and more distinction between the instruments is about at the edge of my skill set... maybe a little passed it. Maybe more than a little.

Besides, it sounds so good.

Plan B. Brad, when you're ready go back to the guitar part, add your fiddle parts, perhaps leaving a verse or two without a fiddle. Perheps someone else can add another instrumental voice... or a human voice?

There can be more than one willow tree in our forest.



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banjo brad wrote: "Presenting the Lyle Konigsberg String band, featuring Lyle Konigsberg, Lyle Konigsberg, Phil J, Lyle Konigsberg, and, oh yeah, Lyle Konigsberg!"

And don't forget the classic horror flick: "Son of Konigsberg: Pickin' Fools."  My soon to be 13 year-old boy has recently expressed an interest in learning to play banjo.  I guess the years of me leaving banjos strategically poised in chairs around the house has finally payed off.



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Hurray! And a clawhammer type, hopefully, at that! Maybe even fretless!

That's the subtle way to do it, Lyle - lets hope it takes.

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