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 Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 06:56 pm
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Martin Bigpig Mor
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I had a listen to Richard Hefner playing Big Rock Candy Mountain in claw hammer style, and was inspired to try to learn it my self.

I have liked this tune for ages, and it suits this style.

The trad Irish song Fiddler's Green has very similar sentiments, a better place beyond here.

My song book says that Fiddlers Green is, in part ,from a 19th century sailor's song.

Does anyone know how old B.R.C.M. is?

There must be more lots songs like this.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 08:11 pm
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banjo brad
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According to Alan Lomax's notes in Folk Songs of North America, it was written by Mac McClintock, probably somewhere around 1910. The quote is as follows:

"Mac McClintock, who claims to be the author of this song (Hallelujah, I'm a bum [ed.]), as well as of the original "Big Rock Canly Mountains" quoted below, playhed clarinet in the first IWW (Industrial Workers of the World) street band, [. . .] tried out Joe Hill's first song (The Preacher and the Slave) when Joe brought it into the Wobbly meet-hall in Portaland in 1910. [. . .]
In The Big Rock Candy Mountains, McClintock tells how a jocker lured a country boy away from home by telling him 'ghost-stories' about lemonade springs and such. After many a thirsty mile the punk is disillusioned:

The punk rolled up his big, blue eyes
And said to the jocker, 'Sandy,
I've hiked and hiked and wandered, too,
But I ain't seen any candy.
I've hiked and hiked till my feet are sroe,
I'll be God-dammed if I hike any more
To be --------------------------------------
In the Big Rock Cany Mountains.
"

I think the book is out of print, but it might be worth looking for. It is a great source of songs. You do have to watch out for the tunes that Lomax copyrighted, and some that are still in copyright from later authors - Woody Gutherie, for one.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 10th, 2006 10:44 am
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Hiya Brad,

Sorry for the delay in replying. I have been on the road a lot recently.

Thanks for the information, I will look out for that book.

I believe that Alan Lomax has saved  a lot of old tunes from being lost and forgotten. I once had a great CD of his, recordings of old Irish music. I

t was fantastic, some of it was an old woman singing in her kitchen. real grass roots stuff.

I am from Northern Ireland myself, so this is a style of music I am really interested in.

 happy days,

martin

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