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 Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 11:14 pm
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Hi there, been learning sop. uke (GCEA), love When Im Cleaning Windows, but would like to find chords for "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavour? (On the bedpost every night)

Had a search and no results so far!

Wondering if anyon can help?

 

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 Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 01:01 am
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It was written by George Formby, and uses only three chords.  The 1,4,5.  Not a hard one to do by ear.

Starts on the Key (1) chord and follows the normal pattern.



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 Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 07:22 pm
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Sorry i'm fairly new to this, dont get quite what that means, for future reference please could you explain? Using Chewing Gum as example preferably haha

Thanks

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 Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 09:28 pm
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It was written by Billy Rose, Marty Bloom and Ernest Breuer back in 1924, not by Formby. It was originally titled "Does Your Spearmint Lose Its Flavor (On The Bedpost Overnight)" but when the copyright was renewed in 1948 Wrigley's sued so the title was changed.

If you go to my site and check the ukulele page you'll find a free pdf file on "Cheater Music Theory" that will help explain the 1, 4, 5 thing.

The best version I could come up with online is here, but unfortunately the chords don't line up well with the lyrics. It should be enough to get you going though.

I could've sworn I had a lyrics/chord sheet for it but if I do it's on one of my backup CDs and I'd have to do a long search.



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Thanks for the correction.  :thumbs1: It is often difficult to get to the root.  I will correct my files to show your new information.

Just shows to go ya, that time and distance can obscure details.

 

I'm sure General Bloodbath will appreciate the update.  I surely do.

 

 



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I just found the chords online: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1614

I'm learning this song too! Good luck!

Last edited on Sat Aug 30th, 2008 02:51 am by mrln

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I remember the Lonnie Donnegan version from back in the late 50s or early 60s (his had the "mother" lyrics in it and changed from spearmint to chewing gum). There are lyrics for his version buried on the Mudcat site too:

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3675

They also have My Old Man's a Dustman there which was apparently the A side of the 45.

I'm not sure Chewing Gum/Spearmint is as simple as 1-4-5 (which can be phrased as C-F-G or G-C-D for us musical hackers whose heads spin crazily when people begin discussing notation and musical theory).

The chords shown on the page http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1614 have the 1-4-5 as A-D-E but it throws in a ringer with the G so you get 1-4-5-7, right?

Argh. Head hurts. The room is spinning again...



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 Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 05:47 pm
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ichadwick wrote: The chords shown on the page http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1614 have the 1-4-5 as A-D-E but it throws in a ringer with the G so you get 1-4-5-7, right?

Argh. Head hurts. The room is spinning again...

Allow me to take you for a spin. :P

In the key of A the VII is a G#. So throwing in a G would actually be throwing in a flatted VII. Not exactly unheard of, but the simpler explanation is that it's actually in the key of D.

So you're using D, G and A and throwing in a II chord (usually, but not always, a minor) by using the E7. So you get I, II, IV, V.

I know a lot of people look at the first chord in the song and say, "Ah! It's in that key." but that "ain't necessarily so." A more likely choice is the last chord in the song. And even that isn't 100%.

Earlier in this thread I pointed out my cheater theory doc. It really will give you enough of a grounding in theory to take care of the majority of conversations with other musicians. Unless they're extreme theory wonks.

They still make my head spin.



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I looked at ichadwick;s reply. So, if it's the key of D, then assign the number 1 to D, 2 to E, 3 to F, 4 to G, 5 to A, and so on... Since they're throwing in an E (E7 in this case), that's 2. So it's 1-2-4-5...

You can transpose this to the key of C by assigning C the number 1, D is 2, E is 3, F is 4, G is 5, A is 6, B is 7. So in the key of C, the chords for 1-2-4-5 are C, D, F, G

Where the music in key of D shows D (the 1 chord), you use C. For E, use D (the 2 chord) and so on. You can make a "key" on paper, and you'll see... SO, the first line chords would be G-C-G-C, the second line would be F-C-F-C

I'm gonna try it in both keys and let you know which I find easier...

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 Posted: Sat Aug 30th, 2008 10:33 pm
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Except, you have to remember the key of D has 2 sharps, F# and C#.



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General Bloodbath, my main man, I just happened on this conversation and my head's spinning too.

Our erudite friends here often resort to Roman Numerals and the runes to explain relatively simple things.

It's a man-thing. They're lovely people but they forget that not everyone reads Latin.

They'll be writing to me in UPPER CASE to put me in my place.

It'll all make sense, by and by. Keep practising. You'll get there.

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I just found a great website: chordie.com. It gives you the chords to any song, and even converts them to different instruments and different keys...

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What time is it in?



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Gerry -

I'd put in the good old Rock and Roll time signature of 4/4. Or, maybe in 2/4.



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