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 Posted: Fri Nov 7th, 2008 02:40 pm
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Neal, thanks a lot for your info. Really tons of songs, but I was unable to figure out which ones are 'BLUES'. So sorry about my stupidness. If you're willing to give me some hints, it will be much appreciated.
Regarding the chords I, IV & V (or V7 dominant 7th), I've learned them early enough, for example: (my apology for using numeral 1234567 to stand for do, rei, mi, fa.....), with 1,3,5 in the measure, I chord may be used; 4,6,1, IV chord; then 5,7,2,4 in the measur, V7 will be ok. As for IImin, IIImin, VImin, they may be used accordingly with 2,4,6 & 6,1,3, etc. Despite the fact that I have a little knowledge of these simple theory, indeed, I don't know how to collect them to make the accompaniment with several songs I'm familiar with. So, I have to follow the graphics posted above the musical sheets. I got no idea why those chords should be used, or whether they can be replaced by other chords. Anyway, these are beyond my knowledge as well as my imagination.
After I browsed the website you had offered, I found most of the songs are only equipped with numerals on the tab but no rhythm or any time-beats indicated. Unless one is very familiar with those songs, she/he may not perform an appropriate melody. What you think of it/

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 Posted: Fri Nov 7th, 2008 09:48 pm
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hdxtheo -

Elderly Music just sent an email that they have the book:

"Blues Ukulele" in stock.

BLUES UKULELE - A JUMPIN' JIM'S UKULELE SONGBOOK by Fred Sokolow
Book/CD pack. 16 blues standards arranged for the ukulele. Each song comes with two arrangements: the first gives you lyrics, melody and uke chord grids to strum while singing. The second is a uke chord/melody tab arrangement, so you can play the song's melody and chords simultaneously with a lot of blues licks thrown in. CD includes both arrangements of each song played and sung by Fred Sokolow. "Beale Street Blues," "C.C. Rider," "Limehouse Blues," "Midnight Special," "St. James Infirmary," "St. Louis Blues," "'Tain't Nobody's Biz-ness If I Do," and 9 others. Note/tab. 40 pp.
49-696064.....$24.95 [Uke Song Collections]
http://www.elderly.com/books/items/49-696064.htm

This might be worth looking into.



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 Posted: Fri Nov 7th, 2008 09:58 pm
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If you use 4/4, and pick a tempo, you'll get the feel of it. If you prefer to read music, and it sounds like you may, check out the book Brad put above. I never got around to learning real music, wish I had. Since taking up the uke though, it's starting to fall into place.

Blues songs, starting out, are pretty easy, pick a tempo, use 4/4, make up your own words... I think Brad's book may be helpful.

If you want a feel for blues, I have an instrumental up on my myspace page you can play along with, it's a blues shuffle in A, so the I chord is A, IV is D and V is E.  Very straightforward and simple.  It's called "The Bluke".  Played on soprano high G.  with saxophone.

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Brad & Neal:
Very glad to have read your messages.
I've already browsed the Elderly Music & listened to Neal's
"Bluke". They are very attractive. I'll try to explore BLUES little by little & also figure out if I'll be able to get the feeling of it. As you know, I have no music in my blood. :=((
Many thanks for your help & terrific suggestions.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 02:24 am
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Hey! -

You're playin' the uke, aren't you?

Then you've got music in your soul (which is waay more important than in your blood)!



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 Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 04:01 am
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Way more.



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Neal, may I show you something that I think it is interesting? I quoted it from internet. According to the Roman numerals, I can easily put them into alphabetic letters (or transpose to any major keys as expected).
They are C; F; C; C7; F; F7; C; C7;
G, G7; F, F7; C; C, G, G7.
However, without melody along with these chords and lyrics, it's very difficult for me to sing this song & strum the chords needed as accompaniment. Certainly, it's a piece of cake for you guys who have been gone through these blues since childhood. So, I have made up my mind to do as Brad said---looking into some blues book in which there are melodies, chords & lyrics, plus getting access to some websites that have explanations or descriptions of this issue.

I - - - IV - - - I - - - I7 - - -
Woke up this morning with an awful aching head

IV - - - IV7 - - - I - - - I7 - - -
Woke up this morning with an awful aching head

V - - V7 IV - - IV7 I - - - I - V V7
My new man had left me, just a room and an empty bed

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 Posted: Sat Nov 8th, 2008 07:19 pm
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Good start, typical blues, your dashes are beats.  Basically, your start notes would walk down- C-Bb-A-G-A.  There's quarter and half notes, but not understanding sight reading, I wouldn't be  the one to explain where :shock:.

I suggest you play this little configuration until you just can't stand it anymore, this is a temporary feeling.  Leave it alone for a few hours. Repeat.  I feel this is the only way anyone learns anything.  Some will say you'll grow to hate it, but each time this process is completed, you get a little better, and to stop it is like walking out of a really good movie before you find out who did what and why.  

Play it and learn it first before you practice singing to it.  It's not only easier, but much more enjoyable at first.  Hum notes in your head if you can/want.



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Neal, thanks for your instruction.
One thing is a bit confusing. The start notes C-Bb-A-G-A 1-7b-6-5-6(I take the liberty to put them in number in order for me to hum them easily) will show up in all of the 12 bars? And, where these 5 notes are supposed to be located on the frets?
--3-1-0------0-- 1st string
---------3---- 2nd string
Do they appear like that? So sorry to bother you again & again.

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Nope. The start notes are just the start of where your voice could be starting in C. Yer on yer own, vocal-wise, after that.

Like I said, play it until you develop a feel for it. Use the notes to give you a feel for vocals in that first verse in C.



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Neal,
My goodness! The latest message makes me totally confused.
I'd show my profound thanks to you first for your time & effort, then lemme try to find out something that is learnable & acceptable to me---a first-grade student. If you don't mind my asking for help, I'd like to need your instruction frequently.

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The start notes only show up at the beginning of the song, that's a start for where your voice would start, with those notes. Since it's in C, the notes given would start the song out, but after that, barring any sheet music, you'd have to figure that out as you go.

Not knowing the language of music very well, I feel fairly inadequate to explain. Most of my learning truly has come from watching other people, and asking questions, just like you're doing now.

If I was you, I'd just learn the rhythm of the 4/4 song you described above, not worry about singing it at this point, or playing notes, just get the "chunka chunka" of the song, straightforward, c-4beats, f-4 beets c-4 beats- g-4 beats c-4 f-4 c-2 g-2 c-2 (or the configuration you have). There's a lot of ways to do that particular progression, beat-wise, but my advice is to start with something simple, that you don't have to think too much about.

But feel free, if you'd like to PM me, that would be fine. If I can muddy up the waters any, I'd be glad to give it a shot. ;)



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Neal,
Eventually I was lucky enough to get something about BLUES from http://sologuitarist.net/blues.html
However, what the author depicted is different from my knowledge of melody & chords accompaniment.
As far as I know, 2 flats on the staff means Bb major including the last note in the final measure is Bb. The same thing in 2 sharps on the staff, means D major with last note D.
I dunno why the C7, F7 & G7 are used in the major Bb instead of Bb7,Eb7,F7; E7,A7,A,E, in the D major rather than D7,G7, & A7. Besides, I found the chords used are one step higher than the major: C for Bb; E for D. Is this the rule or regularity of Blues?
Maybe you will think of me ridiculous---as low as a pre-school or kindergarten student (actually I am.)

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There is a guy on youtube that shows some simple blues/bluegrass licks. When I get home from work I'll post the link. He also has tabs for all the stuff he shows free for doanload

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Ya lost me at 2 flats on the staff....



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I think you must be a person full of sense of humor. However, what your words implied really doesn't make sense to me because I'm an Asian who has no western cultural background. :( :=((

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But, you have a general idea of how the music staff is written, and I do not. That's a leg up for you, because as much as I'd like to call myself a musician, it's kinda like saying your fluent in Japanese, when you don't write it, can't read it, and can only speak in broken sentences, know what I mean?

That's why I say, "you lost me at 2 flats on the staff", it's pretty much because I don't read music, but I can get by playing it ok. What country are you from?

Isn't the internet great?



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Neal, now I gotcha.
So long as we can keep talkin' something about how to play
uke & how to enjoy the music, there'll be friendly relationship between us, i.e. I can continue to learn a lot of musical idea or thought from you. That will be much valuable to me.
I'm from China, enterin' the States as an immigrant 16 years ago. I picked up my uke 3 years ago, little by little I've got strong interest in it, especially when I started learning clawhammer style offered by our instructor Richard online. Without his free online lessons, I would not have been interested in uke at all. I'd like to tell you something ridiculous about myself: because I have never ever got a teacher, except for learning a little bit online, up to now I can't hold my uke firmly. There is no help for it, I've decided to use a thin strip. From the video, we can see all of the musicians hold the instruments with ease, without worrying about the drop of the toys. LOL.

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Can't hold the uke?!?!? Don't feel bad, it's a big club. I use to use a saxophone strap on everything, but got use to standing and playing without except for tenor. This is not an important worry for you.

The best way, the very best way, to learn is to play with other people. Do you know any guitar players? Are there any groups around? There are uke clubs all over, if you let us know the city, there's probably some resources available.

Here's a very simplified blues lesson from Rikg Sauer of Risa ukes, pretty much what I was trying to convey. All blues is pretty much this, with variations and he talks about that, too. But the basics are covered, and it's a good intro to all pop music, country is the same, just not using 7th chords, but still all the same.

Progressions are fun, and so many songs are constructed on a progression of some sort.

Give it a watch.

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I think blues is a style best learned by watching and listening, and not by reading transcriptions on paper.  Most tabulature is written for guitar, and unless you play baritone uke, there is a lot of work involved to transpose the tabs for ukulele.

Try watching this Uke Blues tutorial by Rigk Sauer:

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