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Okay, so I'm weak on theory. But I'd like to know, if the scale is supposed to sound like Do, Re, Mi, etc, why doesn't it sound like it when you play the 8 chords of a Major scale?
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neilg Approved
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ezmember wrote: Do you mean you don't hear the scale in the series of chords you are playing? That would be because the root may be in a different part of each chord. Unless you play chords that have the scale note in the same position, the untrained ear may not hear the scale within.
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Will Approved 
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ezmember wrote: Okay, so I'm weak on theory. But I'd like to know, if the scale is supposed to sound like Do, Re, Mi, etc, why doesn't it sound like it when you play the 8 chords of a Major scale? While the individual notes within a diatonic scale have a common root, the chords for C, D, E, F, G, A, and B each have a different root. This is the reason playing these chords in succession may sound like a cacophony. An example of chords that blend well together would be the C, F, and G. If you assign the C chord as the number 1 (I) chord, the F chord would be the 4th (IV) and the G would be the 5th (V). The reason these chords seem to blend well together in a progression is because they have at least one note in common. This is easier to understand on a piano keyboard than on a string instrument. In the scale of C, only the white keys are used, while the black keys (sharps and flats) are skipped. However, this pattern does not hold for the other chords, for example, in the key of D, which uses 2 of the black keys: D-E-F#-G-A-B-C#-D The chord is named after the root (lowest) note. The D major chord consists of the root, the 3rd and the 5th, which would be D-F#-A.  Last edited on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 01:43 am by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ A Bunch Of Coconuts http://abunchofcoconuts.com |
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banjo brad Super Moderator 
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Because you are probably not stepping the root notes up in order. If you can find a closed position for the root chord (say, "A") with the A on the bass string, and then "walk" that chord up the neck, you should hear the "Do Re Mi" you are looking for. If you are just playing a sequence of chords in the first position, you can see that the bass note is not always the root of the chord. Lets take the "A" scale, A B C# D E F# G# A Play the A chord (2 1 O O - Soprano Uke, fretted strings low to high) The chord is composed of (again, low to high) A C# E A Now, move the position up to the B chord (4 3 2 2 - B D# F# B) (moved up 2 frets) Now, move up 2 more frets to the C# (6 5 4 4 - C# F A C#) Then 1 fret, etc. This will give you the "Do Re Mi" sound. Brad
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ezmember Approved
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Okay, now I get it, I think. Maybe I'm having trouble mixing up scales and chords. One of these days it's going to click and I can't wait. I REALLY appreciate all of you explaining it to my understanding! It's that ROOT note in the chord that's got to coorespond to the scale to get the do, re, mi sound. Is that right? With the GCEA tuning, I see the 1 - 3 - 5 of the C-scale. With the "A" tossed in, what have you got? A CMaj 6 chord?
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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" With the GCEA tuning, I see the 1 - 3 - 5 of the C-scale. With the "A" tossed in, what have you got? A CMaj 6 chord? " Okay, in this instance, you are not in an open chord tuning, meaning that strumming the open strings will give you a chord, like G tuning on a banjo. In order to play a C chord, you need to fret the 1st string at the 3rd fret, giving you GCEc, or a C chord with an octaved root. You might want to find a good intro book to music theory, and I would suggest "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Theory." Don't take that personal, I really like this book as a self-guided intro, and I keep it near my instruments all the time for reference. Brad
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I appreciate your recommending that book, and I think I can identify with the title.  I wanted to take a Music Theory class but couldn't find any around here close. I know some people who know theory but I'm not sure they can teach it. If there's anything I've learned is there's a big difference between knowing something and the ability to teach it. I learned that from teachers. I had to take biochemistry (can you imagine that) and after class I'd often ask the teacher a question. After he explained the answer I'd just end up staring at him sort of catatonically. He wasn't a good explainer-er. You guys have done a good job even though I still got confused...that's my fault, but it's not easy typing out answers and I think you all did a good job not wasting words and putting things rather straightforward.
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neilg Approved
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ezmember wrote:
GCEA can indeed be a C6 chord, OR an Am7, depending on context. Brad's suggestion to get a book to explain harmony is a great idea, AND you can also get pleny of articles on the internet.
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