ezFolk Home MP3 Section Tabs & Tutorials Forums - Newest Messages Musical Instruments Books, CDs, & DVDs Other Stuff
Quick Hello, Introduction, and Tab Request for All of My Tears - Lyrics-Chords-Tabs - General - ezFolk Forums
ezFolk Forums Home 
Search     Members Calendar Help Home
Search by username
Not logged in - Login | Register 
ezFolk Forums > General > Lyrics-Chords-Tabs > Quick Hello, Introduction, and Tab Request for All of My Tears

 Moderated by: Richard Hefner
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
Quick Hello, Introduction, and Tab Request for All of My Tears - Lyrics-Chords-Tabs - General - ezFolk Forums
AuthorPost
 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 02:54 pm
PMQuoteReply  
1st Post
Aaron Hellem
Approved


Joined: Wed Jun 11th, 2008
Location: Leverett, MA
Posts: 8
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo
Status: 
Offline
Hello Everyone,

After enjoying Richard's CH tabs on this site, I decided to sign up and join in on the fun. My name is Aaron, and I'm a writer in Massachusetts. I've been playing the banjo since January, and can't believe I went this long without having played a musical instrument. It tastes so good.

With that short intro out the way, I'm wondering if anyone out there has access to a Clawhammer tab of the Julie Miller song All of My Tears. I've got the chords and have been trying to learn by ear by listening to it, but I'm pretty lost and it's not going as smoothly as I'd like. A tab would help out immensely.

Looking forward to finally participating in the Clawhammer community.

Cheers and Happy Frailin',
Aaron



____________________
"This is a Woody Guthrie song. Some of these songs he wrote for all time." Ry Cooder

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 06:09 pm
PMQuoteReply
2nd Post
banjo brad
Super Moderator


Joined: Wed Apr 14th, 2004
Location: Tucson, Arizona USA
Posts: 2471
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Clawhammer Banjo, Guitar, Harmonica, Dulcimer, Fiddle
Status: 
Offline
Welcome, Aaron! We can always use another clawhammerer around here!

I can't help you with that song, I've never heard of either the song or the artist.

Brad



____________________
ezFolk Help

Brad
Prickly Pear Music
Banjo Brad's ezFolk page
TOTMC
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Jun 11th, 2008 06:15 pm
PMQuoteReply  
3rd Post
Aaron Hellem
Approved


Joined: Wed Jun 11th, 2008
Location: Leverett, MA
Posts: 8
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo
Status: 
Offline
Thanks Brad. It's great to be included as a clawhammerer.

I heard the song on the Songcatcher soundtrack album, which was a movie about a documenter of roots music in the Appalachian hills. It's a beautiful song, and I'd really like to be able to play it better. I'm sure the song is on other records of hers. (I think she gets classified as a country/gospel artist.) I'll keep trying to pick it out by ear.

Thanks for the welcoming and I look forward to chatting.

Cheers,
a.



____________________
"This is a Woody Guthrie song. Some of these songs he wrote for all time." Ry Cooder

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 02:08 am
PMQuoteReply
4th Post
banjo brad
Super Moderator


Joined: Wed Apr 14th, 2004
Location: Tucson, Arizona USA
Posts: 2471
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Clawhammer Banjo, Guitar, Harmonica, Dulcimer, Fiddle
Status: 
Offline
Hmm, I watched the DVD a few months ago, but don't remember that song.

I've needed an excuse to reorder it from Netflix, now I've got one! :)

Brad





____________________
ezFolk Help

Brad
Prickly Pear Music
Banjo Brad's ezFolk page
TOTMC
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 01:33 pm
PMQuoteReply  
5th Post
Aaron Hellem
Approved


Joined: Wed Jun 11th, 2008
Location: Leverett, MA
Posts: 8
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo
Status: 
Offline
You know, I'm not even sure if the song appears in the movie or if it's just on the soundtrack. I think the same is true of Emmylou Harris' version of Barbara Allen: it may just be on the soundtrack.

I'm sure you can find it online somewhere, or at least a small clip of it to hear what it sounds like.

Happy frailin'

Aaron



____________________
"This is a Woody Guthrie song. Some of these songs he wrote for all time." Ry Cooder

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 01:37 am
PMQuoteReply
6th Post
banjo brad
Super Moderator


Joined: Wed Apr 14th, 2004
Location: Tucson, Arizona USA
Posts: 2471
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Clawhammer Banjo, Guitar, Harmonica, Dulcimer, Fiddle
Status: 
Offline
Barbara Allen is in the movie, ELH does it sitting in a rocker on the front porch.

Great movie, by the way - if you're interested in a little history and can get past a bit of over-blown "hillbillyness."

Brad



____________________
ezFolk Help

Brad
Prickly Pear Music
Banjo Brad's ezFolk page
TOTMC
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 01:56 am
PMQuoteReply  
7th Post
banjo brad
Super Moderator


Joined: Wed Apr 14th, 2004
Location: Tucson, Arizona USA
Posts: 2471
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Clawhammer Banjo, Guitar, Harmonica, Dulcimer, Fiddle
Status: 
Offline
I did a search for Julie Miller and for that tune, came up with some close matches, but it looks like the song is probably fairly recent folk/rock or singer/songwriter, not real OT. Same goes for what I could find about her.

Sorry, don't think I can help on this. I also seem to remember that the soundtrack CD was more of a concert featuring "like" music to the film, but I won't swear to that.

Brad



____________________
ezFolk Help

Brad
Prickly Pear Music
Banjo Brad's ezFolk page
TOTMC
Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 11:33 am
PMQuoteReply
8th Post
Lyle Konigsberg
Approved


Joined: Mon Sep 4th, 2006
Location: Champaign, Illinois USA
Posts: 142
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo, Fiddle
Status: 
Offline
banjo brad wrote: but it looks like the song is probably fairly recent folk/rock or singer/songwriter, not real OT.
Brad

Hi Aaron,

Welcome.  I think Brad is right on that, which means the tune is likely copyrighted and so you probably won't be able to find a tab...ever.  The good news is that, with time, it won't be a hard tune to figure out by ear.  Whoever is playing banjo in the track is in G modal tuning.  Take a look at Richard's tab of "Little Sadie" which is in the same tuning.  I'd work through that first before tackling the song you're interested in.



____________________
ezFolk page:
http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/1084/
Some Tabs at:
http://lylewk.home.comcast.net/
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 03:20 pm
PMQuoteReply  
9th Post
Aaron Hellem
Approved


Joined: Wed Jun 11th, 2008
Location: Leverett, MA
Posts: 8
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo
Status: 
Offline
Hey Brad,

You're absolutely right; I don't think the tune is ten years old.  I didn't think about copyright issues for tablature.  I'm still new to the game somewhat.  You're also right about the companion album they did, a "music inspired by the movie" kind of thing, trying, I think, to capitalize on the commercial success of O Brother Where Are Thou and Down from the Mountain.  The soundtrack, though, has most of the music from the movie and I think a couple of extra cuts.  They do include that wonderful version of O Death that the three sensationalized hillbillies sing, the best version of that song I've ever heard.  Right up there with Cooder and Lindley's on their live in California album.  I appreciate all your looking around for me.

Hey Lyle,

Thanks for the welcoming and the suggestion.  I've been working through Richard's Little Sadie, and that prompted me to work through Little Maggie too, after I hit a couple of shared notes and recognized it on a Tommy Jarrell album I've been listening to.  I thought I might be able to pick out Julie Miller's tune that way, but it hasn't hit yet.  I thought too when I was trying to figure out the chording that it was probably in G-Modal or G-minor, so I'll keep frailin in that and I'm sure over time, like you suggest, I'll hit those two notes in a row that'll get me started.

Thank you guys so much.  I can't tell you how much it helps having a support system out there to share both failures and successes. 

I also wanted to thank you two guys in particular for your tabs that you've got up on your respective sites.  I've checked them both out and they've been extremely helpful. 

 I think just joining this forum has made me a better player.

Cheers and happy frailin,
Aaron



____________________
"This is a Woody Guthrie song. Some of these songs he wrote for all time." Ry Cooder

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 05:35 pm
PMQuoteReply
10th Post
banjo brad
Super Moderator


Joined: Wed Apr 14th, 2004
Location: Tucson, Arizona USA
Posts: 2471
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Clawhammer Banjo, Guitar, Harmonica, Dulcimer, Fiddle
Status: 
Offline
"They do include that wonderful version of O Death that the three sensationalized hillbillies sing"

Are you talking about the "Foggy Bottom Boys"? I don't recall them doing "O Death" - that was sung acapella by Ralph Stanley in the "OBWAT?" movie. 

If you want a good overview of the Old Time music done by people steeped in the tradition, you can't go wrong picking up a copy of the CD "High Atmosphere", in my opinion. Field recordings of musicians like Lloyd Chandler, Gaither Carlton, Frank Proffitt, Sydna Myers and Wade Ward. Collected by John Cohen in 1965.

Brad
(This stuff is addictive!)



____________________
ezFolk Help

Brad
Prickly Pear Music
Banjo Brad's ezFolk page
TOTMC
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 07:20 pm
PMQuoteReply  
11th Post
Aaron Hellem
Approved


Joined: Wed Jun 11th, 2008
Location: Leverett, MA
Posts: 8
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo
Status: 
Offline
Brad,

No, the three hillbillies in the movie "The Songcatcher", right after the fight at the dance, I believe.  The one that Adian Quinn punches out gets up and dusts himself off, and then as he's walking away sings the first verse. Then the song is picked up by another taller hillbilly and then an old woman hillbilly.  The acting is over the top, but the rendition is fantastic, better than even Dr. Ralph's from OBWAT.  I have heard Cohen's field recordings, especially of Frank Profitt and Wade Ward.  He also  collected some Hobart Smith, I believe.  I think the first time I ever heard the "Turnip Greens" song was Wade Ward singing and pickin' on one of those albums.  That's a great song.  One of these days when I'm a better banjo player, that's one I'd like to learn.  I think John Cohen captured some Alameda Riddle too, sometime after Alan and John Lomax did.  Which, by the way, have you heard the extensive field recordings of Alan and John Lomax?  My god, they go on forever.  On one of his box sets, he recorded Vera Hall doing a rendition of O Death; a very haunting one.  Not as good as on the Songcatcher, but just as moving.  Right now, I'm knee-deep in all the Folkways Recordings of Tommy Jarrell and company.  I find I really have to concentrate to actually hear how good on the banjo he was, but it's there, underneath it all (it's much easier to hear how good he is on the fiddle).  His version of Little Maggie, especially.  And his rendition of Reuben's Train is just dynamite.  I've also discovered some original recordings of Blind Alfred Reed's; I've known his name from the covers that Ry Cooder has done of his (Always Lift Him Up and How Can a Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live), and am eating those up, too.  A fiddler version of Woody Guthrie, in some respects, with a West Virginia flair.  You might like.  More plaintive rather than twangy. 

You're right:  This is addictive.  I'm turning Little Rosewood Casket into a Civil War marching song.  It's one thing I love about the banjo is being able to supply your own percussion accompaniment.

Hope all is well in Arizona.

Cheers,
a.



____________________
"This is a Woody Guthrie song. Some of these songs he wrote for all time." Ry Cooder

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 01:58 pm
PMQuoteReply
12th Post
Aaron Hellem
Approved


Joined: Wed Jun 11th, 2008
Location: Leverett, MA
Posts: 8
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo
Status: 
Offline
Hey Lyle,

You were absolutely right! I worked a little from Little Sadie's beginning, and changed the chords up and found a workable version of the song. I feel like I've made a good, important stride in playing music: being able to pick something out by ear and figure it out for myself.javascript:emoticon(':D',%20'images/emoticons/big_grin.gif')

Thanks for the help and advice!

Cheers,
Aaron

:D



____________________
"This is a Woody Guthrie song. Some of these songs he wrote for all time." Ry Cooder

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 04:17 pm
PMQuoteReply  
13th Post
Lyle Konigsberg
Approved


Joined: Mon Sep 4th, 2006
Location: Champaign, Illinois USA
Posts: 142
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo, Fiddle
Status: 
Offline
Aaron Hellem wrote: Hey Lyle,

You were absolutely right!

Can I quote that back to my wife?  But seriously, often finding a tuning that will work well is half the battle.



____________________
ezFolk page:
http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/1084/
Some Tabs at:
http://lylewk.home.comcast.net/
Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

Current time is 05:02 am  
ezFolk Forums > General > Lyrics-Chords-Tabs > Quick Hello, Introduction, and Tab Request for All of My Tears



WowUltra 1.15 Copyright © 2007-2008 by Jim Hale
Page processed in 0.3077 seconds (11% database + 89% PHP). 22 queries executed.