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Posted: Mon Jun 27th, 2005 04:10 am |
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I just got a Maya F33OA acoustic Martin copy at a yard sale for $50.00 with probably original case. The label inside the soundhole says "We built this guitar for the people who love guitar music", made in japan. I can't find anything about the company except that it was apparently based in Kobe from the early 70's until the earthquake in the 90's. They made high quality knockoffs of major brand instruments in the late 70's-80's at least as good as the Ibanez lawsuit knockoffs of the same era. On my guitar the headstock was broken off at one time but was very nicely repaired and dosn't seem to hurt the sound any. It has a really nice sound but I had to tune down because it was too hard to play at standard tuning. A result of age Im guessing, (high action). Other than that I love it. I would realy apreciate any info on Maya guitars that I havn't just explained.
Also let me know if you have a Maya guitar and what you think of it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27th, 2005 10:32 am |
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Hi Stratman!
Congrats on a great find and welcome to ezFolk! Check out Harmony Central
http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/
Click on list by Manufacturer and find Maya...there are several reviews there of their Acoustic model. Maybe not what your looking for, but fun to read what others have to say.
Does it have a truss rod? I've had some pretty good luck lowering the action on old guitars using the truss rod/sanding down the saddle/nut filing
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Posted: Mon Jun 27th, 2005 03:47 pm |
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It does have a trus rod but there are three bolts holding the headstock on and one of the is under the plate right in front of the trus rod. Ididn't want to take out the bolt but I don't guess it will hurt it much if I do. I did see those reviews at hormony central as well as many others which told me nothing except that people thought it was a great guitar.
Thanks for the welcoming.
For pics see attachment
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Posted: Mon Jun 27th, 2005 09:11 pm |
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wich way do I turn the truss rod to make the neck bend toward thee strings.
clockwise, couterclockwise
I think counter but I want to be sure
help
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Posted: Mon Jun 27th, 2005 11:51 pm |
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| Think of a truss rod as a long bolt that threads all the way through the neck into the guitar body. If you turn it clockwise, it will tighten the bolt, and will take "bow" out of the neck and lower the action. If you turn counter clockwise, it will losen the bolt and let the strings bow the neck, and the action gets higher.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 03:46 am |
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Thanks for the info.
I visited your homepage and I gotta say you are a great uke and guitar player. I used to have a Jhonson uke but I never learned to play it. I didnt know they could sound so good. I also read that you think you suck at singing but anyone who can sing better then me I'll listen to. I didnt listen to all the songs but I will. I also do a little home recording but all I have is a mic I got from yard sale. No recording software or nothin'. I also don't have any people to hang out and jam with but I just moved here so that will ghange soon I hope. My guitars are a Fender standard strat that I did a shielding mod on and that Maya. I want to learn banjo too.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28th, 2005 10:35 am |
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Hey thanks Stratman!  
I can definately tell you that you are in the right place! The forum here isn't loaded with a lot of chit chat, and can be slow paced sometimes, but the people here are the best and most accepting bunch of musicians you'll ever meet! Early on I bought a standard Tele (yep, I was gonna be a rockin blues star )...but then found ukes, and the beauty of acoustic music, and am hopelessly hooked on the atmosphere of folk music (which I still havene't quite fully figured out or understand yet). If you would have told me a year ago I would be looking for a banjo, I wouldn't have believed it! Hey, if you got a mic at a garage sale, it surely can't be any worse than my radio shack crackerjack computer voice mic...but whatever works! Maybe someone here knows of some recording software you could get a hold of. I know there has got to be some free shareware studio programs out there.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29th, 2005 05:07 am |
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Yeah man I saw that Tele and its a shame you don't play it that much but Im'shure you'l get around to it one day. With an ok amp with the clean channel cranked up or with the distortion on and guitar volume turned down it'l give you some killer blues tones. Even some really nice country and folk tunes can come out of that thing.
You can see my Strat on the my tools thread but its a crappy picture. It's really nice.
I do realize this is an acoustic type forum so I'll try to keep it at that from now on.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29th, 2005 10:09 am |
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Hey, I saw your strat, and she looks sweet, I love the sunburst finish! Don't be to worried about the electric/acoustic issue here, in fact that has come up before and Richard is fine with electric instruments. In fact a lot of the recordings here are "plugged in" like UF's electric uke, and bass accompanyments and acoustic/electric guitars and keyboards. It's not the instrument, it more what you play. If you write an original song and play it on your strat, you're fine and we want to hear it! But if you're into shredding or head banging cover tunes...that aint what ezFolk is about
My tele does get play time, usually when my wife has had about enough ukulele or slide on my reso, but I want to keep practicing...I can be found on the couch with my tele, not plugged in, playing while watching TV. I do admit that when I first got into this, the Tele was my dream, and wailing electric blues leads was what I wanted. An innocent ukulele at the music store totally changed my journey. I've re-assest my need and desire for the tele several times over, and have even contemplated selling it...but I haven't. I don't know the future, but I spent a lot of time looking for it, and I'll never forget the day it found me. And one more thing about my tele...of all the instruments I've had, played, and have now...my tele is the best feeling instrument, to just hold.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29th, 2005 10:09 pm |
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Well anyhow, no one knows that much about me yet so here go's. I've been playin' for a little over a year now but if you want to find out how good a fellow musician is the real question is "how many hours do you practice each day?". After all that is what separates the men from the boys. And since theres nothin' much else to do in my life I am most always playing guitar. My first guitar was an Ibanez GRX20 or 40 , whichever one is the cheap one, that I got from a pawn shop in Monroe, NC. I like classic rock, classic country, bluegrass, and folk music. Here are some of my favorite artists. Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, The Stones, Johnny Horton, Hank Williams Sr. and Jr., and other artists I don't feel like naming. I also like classic muscle cars, my personal favorite being the 70' Plymouth Roadrunner. I also collect Vinyl. I don't really care for anything new to tell you the truth. And 1four5 thanks for the comment on the Strat.
Hope you find my life interesting. Haha. Not funny.
One thing I can say is this is a nice forum and I wanna say y'all keep pickin' and a grinnin' till ya drop.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30th, 2005 12:40 am |
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Hmmm, I'm guessing that with your interest in albums, taste in music, and taste in cars...you're 40 something. I'm also a huge Pink Floyd fan. I've worn out two VHS videos in my life from playing them hundreds (for real! ) of times. One was Pink Floyds "The Wall", and the other one was the 1985 movie "Crossroads" with the Karatie Kid dude and Stevie Vie.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30th, 2005 01:53 am |
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| You are very wrong about my age but any one would be from what I said. Believe it or not there are very many others like myself. I am much younger than you think and from what I've read all you guys seem to be old. I'm not saying 40 is old but much older than me. But maybe there is someone close to my age on this forum. Almost all of my friends from where I moved from and where I live now like old stuff. I actually made a new friend here my age who has a collection of 200 or so records, all classic rock of course. I like to keep my age a secret even though revealing it woud not be such a big deal. Last edited on Thu Jun 30th, 2005 02:00 am by stratman
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Posted: Thu Jun 30th, 2005 02:53 am |
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You and your buddy have good taste ...if you have the Nazreth "Hair of the Dog" Album, you have possibly my all time favorite. Not necessarily for the style of music...but that was my senior year in High school
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Posted: Thu Jun 30th, 2005 04:26 am |
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I love that song. "Now your messin with a son of a &*#%&". I like to play it too but I don't have the album.
Hey man, I got a question. Does your Tele hum a lot because my Strat gets on my nerves and I know its not my amp because I tried my guitar on other ones. I even did a shielding mod but I ended up finding out it could be this thing called 60 cycle hum caused by non guitar related stuff in home wiring and such. I may buy some noiseless pickups for it to see if that helps because I don't understand why this dosen't happen to everyone.
Also I think you should really try tabbing out some of that music you make. Thats just what I think so don't go changin' cause of us on these forums. I read about you making diferent sounds come out every time you pick up an instrument. Thats cool man, cool style, (caint) nobody coppy ya.
I really wish I could get some more info on this Maya guitar but its like the company and everyone who worked for it vanished. Very strange. Anyway if you ever come across one buy it. Might be worth somthin one day. I really do love the sound. Sweeeet.
Oh yhea, what is mana all about?
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Posted: Thu Jun 30th, 2005 12:10 pm |
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When I got my Tele, it hummed. I had been given a cheapo used chord. It was easy to figure out, because it didn't hum in the shop when I bought it. Then a bass player friend of mine gave me one of his extra good quality chords, and that cured the hum for good.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30th, 2005 08:35 pm |
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Stratman wrote:
Oh yhea, what is mana all about?
Mana is a way of giving kudos to people you think are extra helpful, or have done something really nice for you or others on the site.
You can add mana by clicking on the mana line by the member you want to receive it.
Keep on pickin'
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Posted: Fri Jul 1st, 2005 01:32 am |
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Thnks 1four5 I didn't think of that. I need a shorter cord anyway. It might not work but give it a try. And you to brad.
I really want some more info on Maya's so if anyone finds anything on value or history please tell me.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23rd, 2005 06:58 pm |
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Hi Stratman!
Want to know more about Maya's, hey? Well sorry, I cannot give you any clues I'm sure about. You will find some information on the net when you google on "el maya" guitar. Also try "el maya" guitars. Don't forget the double quotes around el maya and the word guitar or guitars.
Alas the info you'll find are all speculations. Nobody has the definitive answer. Some relate them to Ibanez, others to Tokai, but I think the only truth is that all records about the factory were lost.
I myself owe four Maya's. It started with an El Maya EM-1300. El Maya is the topline brand of Maya, the real quality guitars. And quality it is! This is the original model with the neckthru en stringthru construction and the herringbone that some reviewers speak highly about.
The Maya guitars themselves (without the El) range from crappy to reasonable quality. The Maya strat I owe is a low end piece of crap. It is a plywood board, weighs a ton and is equipped with a cheap bridge and dito pickups. The neck on the other hand is surprisingly good. Maybe I'll fit a better bridge and better pickups on it.
Then I have two acoustical Maya's. One is a classical guitar model CK-114, made in Korea, not bad, not good. Last Maya is the recently acquired 12-string dreadnought, a model FK335/12, also made in Korea. Quality comparable to the other classical.
You understand that after the touch of luck that delivered me the El Maya, I became a collector. I search internet auctions and try not to pay too much. The strat cost me 75 euro, the classical 50 euro and the 12-string 100 euro.
Well hope the google info puts you on to something. If it does, please let me know!
Good luck!
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Posted: Wed Dec 21st, 2005 07:28 am |
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| I picked up a maya strat copy that is 3/4 size - anyone know about these
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Posted: Mon Dec 26th, 2005 09:23 pm |
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Hi Strat
By what I've read, I think you found a needle in a haystack... Like just about everybody else, I can't find squat on the company either, but it seems like anybody who has managed to find this instrument is pretty pleased. I just got what I think is going to be a really nice Christmas present - a Maya Artist mandolin that's about 30 years old or so. It's a pretty pure copy of a Martin A model, but the back and sides of this are rosewood - probably Indian - dunno yet... and the Martin was Mahogany. I had a Martin A and loved it - can't wait to find out how this matches up - found it in eBay and am awaiting it's arrival.
I wanted to tell you about a free analog recorder, called Audacity. I've used it quite a bit for converting vinyl and tape into files on my computers - and it's for real. It won't convert to mp3, as is, but there is a program called LameFE that will, if you hunt around a little, at the mainpage where I'm going to link this: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ I think you will get some directions to LameFE through the Audacity. You can use this program as a multitrack.
I see there is no way to link to the mainpage - so it's http://sourceforge.net
Doc
PS - to whoever gave me the kudos - thank you - it was a nice little Christmas present too... To all - I hope you have a GREAT 2006, filled with good health, spirit, and peace.
I have found some information - scattered and incomprehensible probably - about "Maya"... I have been in touch with some really helpful people at Saga Musical Instruments, who have told me a bit about the man who built my mandolin. I think it would be safest to apply what I am going to say to just my earlier post here, but it may lead you to be able to research your own instruments. As I understand things, "Maya" was basically a distributor, that bought from various independent (Japanese) luthiers, who made everything from soup to nuts - electric, acoustical, etc... Regarding my mandolin, on the inside bracing is stamped: "MADE BY MR TAHARA", who turns out to be a man by the name of Ryohei Tahara, later known, with respect, as Tahara-sah. I will upload an article on him, from Frets Magazine, 1984. Where it gets cloudy is that, because I am researching my "new" mandolin, I am only drawn to anything I can find on this Mr. Tahara, who was a luthier that concentrated, I believe, mostly on acoustical guitars and instruments. From Saga Musical Instruments:
You are indeed on the right track. "Maya" was a brand named used by a
Japanese Trading Company from Kobe called Rokkoman. In the early 1970s
Tahara-san had a factory in Matsumoto Japan that was engaged primarily in
the production of lower-mid range acoustic guitars, but they also made some
mandolins. Mandolins were a minor portion of their total output. Mr
Tahara's factory in Matsumoto went into bankruptcy in the mid to late 1970s
after which he moved to Tateshina outside of Maruko-machi in Nagano
Prefecture where he focused exclusively on Mandolin production. Shortly
after that move Saga Musical Instruments began a relationship with
Tahara-san that started with specificational input and then with a majority
financial interest in operation. Maybe this is more information than you
need but I think that it fills in a few blanks!
Best regards,
Saga Musical Instruments
David Gartland
Marketing
http://www.sagamusic.com
The correspondence from Mr. Gartland has most certainly filled in a LOT of blanks for me - more than he probably realizes, and I am still in touch with him, asking other questions. With what he has given me, I think the Rokkoman reference is very certainly very important to our overall search of the Maya name.
Because of the size of these files, I need to upload them to my own server, so use your back button to get back here, or just change the address to page2, page 3, etc...
http://web.aanet.com.au/pearfarm/kentuckyarticlepage1.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/pearfarm/kentuckyarticlepage2.jpg
http://web.aanet.com.au/pearfarm/kentuckyarticlepage3.jpg
John
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