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Will Approved 
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Totoro wrote: Will, I think the Montclaire is an excellent guitar, well worth the $300 price. Solid wood guitars with Englemann spruce top, rosewood back and sides, hardwood binding, and real abalone trim would normally cost at least 3 to 4 times as much, or much more under an established brand name. The Blueridge BR-70, a dreadnought I had an interest in, has a similar design but with laminated rosewood back and sides and now cost about $650. I raised the string action of the Montclaire by shimming up the saddle by about 1/16" and it now plays very well without string buzz when picked. The Brigantine and Greenwich were super-bargains, selling for a final blowout price of $100. Due to the abnormal clearance price reductions, it probably isn't fair to compare prices of those models directly with the Montclaire. For the $200 price difference, the Montclaire has solid rosewood back and sides, full real abalone trim, and hardwood binding. You get the booming bass characteristic of the Montclaire rosewood dreadnought, the balanced tone of the Greenwich, and the less-boomy mahogany dreadnought sound of the Brigantine. With just a bit of tweaking to set up the string action, all three are excellent guitars, certainly better than anything else at similar prices. Maybe a better comparision would be between "normal" priced imported guitars. Rosewood guitars, especially with solid back and sides, generally cost a good deal more than laminated rosewood models. The price differential between a Blueridge BR-160 (solid rosewood @$790) vs. a BR-60 (laminated rosewood @$520) is substantial; even more so with abalone-trimmed models - Blueridge BR-180 ($1,200) vs. BR-70 ($710). My friend Jeff who runs the local jam session is a Gibson guitar collector, and he has played some of my Fullertons, and he's very impressed by how they play and sound.
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Will Approved
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kingjack wrote: For those interested in why Music123 is blowing out the Fullerton stock so cheaply, read my email exchange with Bob Young, below. Since this is cut&pasted from email, skip to the bottom, then read your way back up (that's chronological order). Jack: Thanks for the background story. Enjoy your guitar. -Will
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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fullertonboy Approved
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Hey, do you guys know that they're selling Chinese-made (I think) guitars on ebay with similar specs to the Fullertons for close to or a little more after shipping. For instance, there's a solid rosewood back and sides acoustic-electric for about 339 after shipping; factor in that it has electronics, and it's comparable. There's lots of other models, jumbos, etc that have specs similar to a lot of the Fullertons, for just a little more than the Music123 blowout prices we've been looking at. Do you suppose these are just as good? The feedback is 99% positive on the one seller who seems to be selling most of them (jj-lin). The primary product name seems to be "Gitano". Do you suppose this suggests a flood of relatively inexpensive good quality guitars from the Far East is here or will be here in the near future, and does this means the blowout deals, while good, are not as good as they seem? And this is not to denigrate the Fullertons and the blowout sale in any way, I bought three myself. Just wondering. e.g.: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110106626398&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX&refitem=200050397355&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget
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Will Approved
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Originally, prior to ordering the Fullertons, I was primarily looking for a jumbo body 12-string, but that eBay seller doesn't carry any 12-strings. I generally don't buy off eBay if the same instruments can be purchased from an established on-line or mail order dealer. It's been observed that many of the imported guitars from China are of very good quality, and a number of them are already selling under the labels of established brands such as Blueridge (virtually their entire line), Guild (the GAD line), Fender, Epiphone (Masterbilt line), etc. When these guitars are available under a generic or house brand, they are often priced much lower.
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Totoro Approved
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I am looking to upgrade the saddle and pins on the Greenwich to either tusq or bone. Any recommendations? Also what size do I need. There appear to be two main sizes, Taylor and Martin. I imagine it is the Taylor size, but I am not sure.
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Will Approved
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Totoro wrote: I am looking to upgrade the saddle and pins on the Greenwich to either tusq or bone. Any recommendations? Also what size do I need. There appear to be two main sizes, Taylor and Martin. I imagine it is the Taylor size, but I am not sure. Two years ago I mail ordered and installed a compensated bone saddle for my Martin dreadnought from Maury's Music for a very reasonable price. I'm not sure what the size difference is between a Martin and a Taylor saddle. Here's the URL: http://www.maurysmusic.com/acoustic_guitar_parts Last edited on Tue Apr 3rd, 2007 03:08 am by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Hey Will, Do you know anything about the "Fullerton Elwood Pro Auditorium?" I've been wanting an auditorium size guitar for a while and that one was still available just now so I bought it. Retail was $700 and the Music123 price was $179 with free shipping so I thought it sounded like a good deal. It's not too fancy but looks like good quality and it's solid wood. Here's the description... Anyhoo, too late to back out now... just wanted to get some reinforcement from all the Fullerton fans. Here's what it looks like...  
____________________ Richard Hefner Webmaster, ezFolk.com MP3 Page: http://www.ezfolk.com/audio/richardhefner |
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Totoro Approved
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Richard Hefner wrote: I've been wanting an auditorium size guitar for a while and that one was still available just now so I bought it. Retail was $700 and the Music123 price was $179 with free shipping so I thought it sounded like a good deal. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the suggested retail. Still, if it is anything like the Greenwich auditorium that I purchased, you should be very happy. The Greenwich has become my favorite guitar and I just purchased the case Will recommended for it. Good luck. Last edited on Thu Apr 5th, 2007 07:10 pm by Totoro |
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Will Approved
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Hi, Richard: Based upon the quality of the Fullerton instruments I've received from Music123, the Elwood guitar should be a very nice instrument. It has a solid spruce top and solid mahogany back and sides. The body has the "mini-jumbo" shape rather than the traditional Martin-style 000 shape. I'm not sure if this guitar will fit into a regular 000 hardshell case, but it should fit into a classical sized gig bag. -Will Last edited on Thu Apr 5th, 2007 07:14 pm by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Chaoscat Approved 
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Hello Kingjack. You didn't happen to scoop up a few extra 12 strings did you?
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Totoro Approved
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Chaoscat wrote: Hello Kingjack. You didn't happen to scoop up a few extra 12 strings did you? Chaoscat. Musicians Friend has a Spruce and Mahogany 12 string for $80 (Black) and $100 (Natural). http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rogue-Herringbone-12String-Acoustic?sku=519267   Last edited on Wed Apr 11th, 2007 01:19 pm by Totoro |
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Will wrote: I'm not sure if this guitar will fit into a regular 000 hardshell case, but it should fit into a classical sized gig bag. Will, I just received my Golden Gate case. What a great case and what a bargain at $50. Thanks for the tip. My Greenwich fits perfectly!
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fullertonboy Approved
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Looks like someone returned a Cumberland 12-string Jumbo, because they're now listing an open box one for 128.24 after 10% discount. They had been all sold out.
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Chaoscat Approved
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Must have gone quick. I was too busy fightin' the flood yesterday to worry about guitars. By the time I saw this and looked it was gone. Though I do see a Crosswick there now that wasn't before. I'm of 2 minds on these returns. I mean, something was most likely wrong for it to be sent back. But then, maybe it was like my Elwood, when I got it - it was unplayable. I had to adjust the neck and shim the bridge up. You just don't know, were they returned for fixable setup problems or more serious issues? Then, again -for $90, you're not risking too much.
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fullcircle Approved
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I purchased a return cumberland B stock. I was somewhat apprehensive but I gave it a shot. Not only was I pleased, But my friend the luthier said that It was a good buy for the money. I changed the strings, am replacing the saddle and pins and installing a bridge doctor - not that it needed it but I can do this and have a good sounding and very playable 12 stringJUMBO for under $200. Bye the way, the soundboard was fine -flat, the bridge was not lifting and the neck was straight and fretboard was ok. I don't know why it was returned, But I'm glad that I have it.
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Will Approved
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I had ordered early in February during Music123.com's clearance sale and I purchased an "A-stock" Fullerton Cumberland jumbo 12-string for $100. I took it to the local jam and 2 much more experienced guitar players (35-40 years) played it. After commenting on the excellent tone and low action of the guitar, they were flabbergasted when they learned what the price was. One of them told me "I had won the lottery." Last edited on Fri Apr 20th, 2007 01:55 am by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Chaoscat Approved
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You guys just keep ruuubbing it in. 
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fullertonboy Approved
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The FW-35's 49.99 (before 10% discount) dreadnought in black was available yesterday for a brief shining momemt, but out of stock again today; a B-stock Greenwich listing for $119.99 (before 10% discount) also must have been even more briefly avaliable, but is also now out of stock. Looks like some of the out-of-stock faves make brief comebacks sometimes, and you can grab 'em if you catch 'em...
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Will Approved
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Just spotted this! There is a Fullerton Kingwood 6-string selling on eBay, with a final date of April 30, 2007: http://cgi.ebay.com/Fullerton-Kingwood-Solid-Spruce-Top-Quilted-Maple_W0QQitemZ190106383468QQihZ009QQcategoryZ2385QQcmdZViewItem
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Will Approved
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FULLERTON MAN (sung to the tune of "Traveling Man" by Rick Nelson) Parody lyrics by Will - ode to those with Guitar Acquisition Syndrome, inspired by Fullertonboy Click here for MIDI accompaniment: http://members.aol.com/midman/travman.mid (I've boldfaced the accented syllables to make it easier to sing) I'm a Fullerton Man, Collecting guitars, made from 'round the world. And on many guitars I've bought, they've got Fancy abalone and pearl. Kingwood spruce and maple 12-string, lovely to see; Has a loud sound, you know. And I even own its 6-string brother, too Plus the Cumberland jumbo. Music123 had a big markdown; New guitars, my heart did yearn. Aquisition Syndrome; although it's wrong, None did I return. Dreadnought solid wood beauties, named Brigantine, And Montclaire, sound so right. Own enough to stock a band, but still bought to see If the Greenwich sounded bright. (instrumental break) Music123 had a big markdown; New guitars, my heart did yearn. Aquisition Syndrome; although it's wrong, None did I return. Dreadnought solid wood beauties, named Brigantine, And Montclaire, sound so right. Own enough to stock a band, but still bought to see If the Greenwich sounded bright. Oh, I'm a Fullerton Man... Yes, I'm a Fullerton Man...  Last edited on Tue May 8th, 2007 08:40 pm by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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