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Will Approved 
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gill wrote: Hey all---I was looking for more info on the Fullerton Greenwich or other Auditorium sized guitars. Does anyone know the nut width or if there's a model with a 1 3/4" nut? Also ,what materials are the nut & saddle made of? Rosewood wood fretboard ? The guy I spoke with at Music 123 didn't know. Thanks for your help! The Fullerton Greenwich Auditorium guitar has rosewood fretboard with the standard 1-11/16" nut width. It has a slightly deeper body than most 000 guitars (about 1/4" thicker than my Blueridge BR-73). The compensated saddle and nut appear to be made out of plastic or Tusq. The only wide nut width Fullerton guitars that I know of are the now sold-out Winslow biscuit resonator guitar (nut width is 1 7/8"), or their nylon string classical guitars. Last edited on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 08:51 pm by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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gill Approved
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Thanks a lot, Will. I am assuming that the Fullerton Elwood has the 1 11/16 nut also. They do seem similar to Blueridge guitars. Still sounds like a deal, but not for me.
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Totoro Approved
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Will, The case that you recommended from Musician's Friend for the Greenwich, how well does it fit? Do you have the case or are you basing it on your experience with the Blueridge? I might get one, but I wanted an opinion first. Thanks.
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Will Approved
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Totoro wrote: Will, Totoro: I actually did buy that Golden Gate 000 hardshell case from Musician's Friend for the Fullerton Greenwich, and it fits perfectly with a bit of room to spare (you can keep a guitar strap attached). The Fullerton Greenwich has a longer headstock and a slightly thicker body than the Blueridge BR-73, so I could not have used the slightly shorter hardshell case that I had been using for the Blueridge. (I believe the Golden Gate brand is made by Saga, the parent company for Blueridge guitars.) It's a very nice case for the $50 price.
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Totoro Approved
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I just noticed something interesting. The picture of the guitar case on Musician's Friend is EXACTLY the same as the picture of the case that comes with the BR-73. Any thoughts? Will, you said they were slightly different.
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Will Approved
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Totoro wrote: I just noticed something interesting. The picture of the guitar case on Musician's Friend is EXACTLY the same as the picture of the case that comes with the BR-73. Any thoughts? Will, you said they were slightly different. Yes, your observation is correct. Musician's Friend sells their Blueridge guitars only with a case included, and that means the Golden Gate hardshell case. Last summer, I had ordered my Blueridge BR-73 from Music123 because they sold the guitar without a case. Sorry for the confusion; I should have clarified that I had used a old hardshell case that came with my Lark In The Morning plectrum guitar (it's bigger than a tenor guitar) to store my Blueridge, and it just fits perfectly. The plectrum guitar is now stored in a classical guitar gig bag.
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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MasterYeti Approved
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Has anyone got the Fullerton Montclaire yet? I can't wait to get mine. I was just wondering if anyone has it in hand and what they thought about it.
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Will Approved
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MasterYeti wrote: Has anyone got the Fullerton Montclaire yet? I can't wait to get mine. I was just wondering if anyone has it in hand and what they thought about it. I picked my Montclaire up last night, but it was late, and I haven't had a chance to play it loud with a pick. It sounds great played barefingered, and the action is nice and low. I may need to raise the action slightly because I'm a fairly aggressive strummer. The real abalone rosette and fret dot markers, and full wooden binding (guitar body and neck) are very nicely done. The truss rod cover is on the headstock end. Last edited on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 02:00 pm by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Will wrote: MasterYeti wrote:Has anyone got the Fullerton Montclaire yet? I can't wait to get mine. I was just wondering if anyone has it in hand and what they thought about it. Cool. What would you say the nut width is?
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Totoro Approved
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My Greenwich arrived today. I was aghast when I saw a large hole in the box. I opened it and there was another hole in the interior guitar box at the same spot. I took the guitar out of the box and there was a hole in the white wrapping. I took the wrapping off and was relieved to find only a small smudge on the finish, most of which I buffed out with a guitar cloth. My Greenwich was also very playable out of the box and I actually like it better than the Brigantine, which has a much higher action. I still think the Alaire is the nicest of the Fullerton guitars I purchased, but this one is very close. I did notice two things. First, the bridge saddle seems to be made of cheaper quality plastic compared with the Brigantine. Second, the braces do not run straight across, but at a slight angle. I don't know if this is intentional, since all the braces are parallel to each other. Is yours the same?
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Will Approved
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MasterYeti wrote: Will wrote:MasterYeti wrote:Has anyone got the Fullerton Montclaire yet? I can't wait to get mine. I was just wondering if anyone has it in hand and what they thought about it. I'm not near my guitar at the moment, but I'd say that the Montclaire and the other Fullerton guitars has the standard 1-11/16" nut width (except for the Winslow biscuit cone resonator, which is 1-7/8"). What I find interesting about the different Fullerton guitar models is the design similarities to different established guitar brands. For example, the Brigantine dreadnought has a Martin-inspired headstock. The Kingwood jumbo 12-string has the curly maple back and sides, 17" lower bout, and abalone-on-pearl fret markers inspired by the Guild F-412. The Cumberland jumbo 12-string has the mahogany back and sides, 17" lower bout, and headstock shape inspired by the Taylor 355. I'm not sure what the Montclaire is inspired by... perhaps the Martin D-41, but with wood binding and a different, rounded headstock. The Greenwich most resembles the Blueridge BR-73, but has a slightly deeper body and a longer, rounded headstock. I wonder what the internal bracing pattern is like... Mind you, regarding the Fullerton guitars, I did say "inspired by" and not necessarily "as good as." For tonal comparisons, I do own a solid wood spruce and rosewood Martin dreadnought and a solid wood spruce and mahogany Guild dreadnought 12-string. Last edited on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 12:34 am by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Will wrote:
I have neither a Martin nor a Blue Ridge, so I can't compare it. Not that it matters. The important thing is that I like it...alot! I just shaved 1/16" off the saddle just like you said and the Brigantine sings beautifully now. I am tempted to keep both of them if the wife won't kill me. Of course, getting the Alaire for her softened her up a bit. My guitar came with a QC sheet that said it was set up at the factory. Obviously that is kind of bogus since both yours and mine were off by exactly the same amount. Anyway, this was the first time I've sanded down a saddle. I was a bit nervous, but it worked out just fine. Worst case I would have had to buy an new saddle. So no big deal. Last edited on Sun Mar 25th, 2007 06:24 pm by Totoro |
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Will Approved
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Totoro wrote: Will wrote: Keep them both, if at all possible. You got 2 excellent guitars for the price of one starter guitar. And you also have a nice classical in your family's collection. You wife might like playing the Greenwich (which is now sold out).
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Will wrote: Totoro wrote:Will wrote: She's kind of partial to nylon strings. She says the steel strings are too hard on her fingers. One thing about the Brigantine, should I decided to keep it, I noticed that the rosewood bridge and fingerboard are awefully dry. Was yours the same? If so, are you planning on putting anything on it? I have some Martin guitar polish which is made from mineral oil. Would you recommend that or something else? Or perhaps nothing at all.
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Will Approved
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Totoro wrote: She's kind of partial to nylon strings. She says the steel strings are too hard on her fingers. Maybe you can try a set of silk and steel strings on the Greenwich - they're easier on the fingertips than the standard phosphor bronze strings. Yes, my Brigantine dreadnought had a fretboard that looked a bit dry. A dry fretboard can crack or cause frets to become uneven or unseated. The guitar polish you have probably isn't made for fretboards. Dry fretboard wood can be treated with fretboard oil, which is usually lemon oil. There are commercial products that you can buy at your local guitar shop, or on-line: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dunlop-Fretboard-65-Ultimate-Lemon-Oil?sku=425264&src=3SOSWXXA http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Fretting_supplies/Fingerboard_cleaner,_stain_and_oil/ColorTone_Fretboard_Finishing_Oil.html I happened to have a bottle of furniture lemon oil at home, and I've occasionally used it, sparingly. Fretboard oil is made for dark woods such as rosewood or ebony, but it will stain a maple fretboard (not a problem unless you play an electric guitar). Also, resist the temptation to wipe down a dry-looking bridge with lemon oil. I did that one time on my Seagull 12-string, and it expanded the bridge pin holes; I had to wrap strips of adhesive foil tape around the pins to make them stay seated afterwards. Last edited on Mon Mar 26th, 2007 05:45 pm by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Will wrote:
Did you apply anything to yours? Or are you just going to leave it the way it is? A long time ago I built my own custom hunting rifle, and I carved the stock out of a rosewood blank (rosewood gunstocks look amazing). When I was finished, I applied linseed oil and it really made the rosewood stand out. Do you think linseed would work well on guitar rosewood as well. Sorry to hear about your Seagull. Do you know why the oil expanded the pin holes? The bridge should be left alone I take it. There is no worry about the bridge cracking from dryness then?
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Totoro Approved
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Will wrote:Maybe you can try a set of silk and steel strings on the Greenwich - they're easier on the fingertips than the standard phosphor bronze strings. No need. The Greenwich is for me. She is happy with the Alaire. Oh, and the Alaire is Rosewood laminate not solid like I first thought. I guess my eyes were playing tricks on me. Not that I am complaining!
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Will Approved
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Totoro wrote: Will wrote:Yes, my Brigantine dreadnought had a fretboard that looked a bit dry. I haven't applied any fretboard oil yet to the Brigantine, but maybe I'll have time this weekend to do that. I don't know enough about linseed oil, but I think the concern with a guitar is that the oil that is used doesn't leave residue which would attract dust, or drip oil into the frets and strings. I got the lemon oil tip from a friend of mine who has played guitar far longer than me; he told me he wipes down the fretboard with a bit of lemon oil each time he changes strings. Due to inexperience, I probably was sloppy with the Seagull and I used too much lemon oil, which leaked into the bridge pin holes. A careful wipedown of the bridge with a bit of lemon oil on a cleaning cloth probably wouldn't hurt.
____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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kingjack Approved
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For those interested in why Music123 is blowing out the Fullerton stock so cheaply, read my email exchange with Bob Young, below. Since this is cut&pasted from email, skip to the bottom, then read your way back up (that's chronological order). Jack Hello Jack: I will try to make a long story as short as possible. I use to run a wholesale distribution company called NHF Musical that was owned my Music 123 (DBI). (It was my company that I sold to them in 2003, we also were the exclusive US distributor of ARIA instruments). Last summer they asked me to help them liquidate the inventory that was in excess as they were having cash flow problems. I did this through a group of eBay sellers, I being one of them. DBI went bankrupt and was sold to Guitar Center (Musician's Friend) last month. The new owners dropped the price of all of the house brand items to blow them out (Fullerton is a house brand that I had developed, it was my name and they got it with my company's purchase. You may remember that ARIA had FULLERTON models in the 1990's). That is why you saw such a low price with free shipping all of a sudden. This guitar was a nice instrument and I had sold over 100 of them since August, so a few days ago I bought the remaining 20 pieces. That is why they are "sold out" and I still have them . . . and now you will have one too! I have access to many items still in their inventory so if you need anything else let me know? Regards, Bob Young DRUMCOM
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