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 Posted: Tue Mar 13th, 2007 02:34 pm
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MasterYeti wrote: Hi, I came across this forum doing a search for Fullerton guitars. I have been very impressed with the Fullerton brand. I got one of the Hammonton Deluxe F Style Mandolin for $199 (all solid wood) and it is worth way more that that. Yesterday I ordered the Fullerton Cumberland 12 string and the Fullerton Winslow Resonator Guitar. I'm thinking about picking up one of there Fullerton Tuckerton string banjo.

Hell you cant beat these closeout deals. Even that $49 FW35 Acoustic dreadnought solid top.

I ordered the Fullerton Winslow round neck resonator, Fullerton Cumberland 12-string, and Fullerton Greenwich auditorium guitar, all closeout priced at $100 each.  I received the the 12-string earlier this week, and it sounds excellent, and very powerful.  I'm picking up the resonator guitar tonight. 



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I hope my  Fullerton Cumberland 12 string and the Fullerton Winslow Resonator Guitar. Come in this week. Keep us informed on that Resonator. I excited to hear what you think about it.
 
I'm bummed I miss out on the Brigantine dreadnought. :(

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Will,

I know someone who bought a Cumberland 12 string when they were $150. He called when the price went down and they refunded the $50 difference. So you should be able to get the $100 refund on the guitar you purchased. Worth a shot.

BTW: I got my guitars. One of the ones I ordered was an Alaire Classical guitar for my wife. What an amazing guitar. I am convinced that it is solid rosewood (although it doesn't say so on the website). It is super lightweight and the grain inside matches the outside. It also has a cedar top. Needless to say, she is delighted. I think it is nicer than the Brigantine, but both are beautiful guitars.

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Totoro wrote: Will,

I know someone who bought a Cumberland 12 string when they were $150. He called when the price went down and they refunded the $50 difference. So you should be able to get the $100 refund on the guitar you purchased. Worth a shot.

BTW: I got my guitars. One of the ones I ordered was an Alaire Classical guitar for my wife. What an amazing guitar. I am convinced that it is solid rosewood (although it doesn't say so on the website). It is super lightweight and the grain inside matches the outside. It also has a cedar top. Needless to say, she is delighted. I think it is nicer than the Brigantine, but both are beautiful guitars.



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Thanks for the tip.  I read on a Washburn guitar forum that someone had received a refund for the price difference if it was done within 45 days.  That would be sweet.

Speaking of sweet, I received my Fullerton Greenwich 000 guitar.  Auditorium-size guitars are my favorite size because they have a more balanced sound (less bass heavy) and are easier to play than dreadnoughts and jumbos.  A good 000 is not shy in the bass department, either.  I am astounded by the sound and build of this Fullerton guitar.  It looks and sounds very similar to my Blueridge BR-73, which I ordered last year from Music123 for $450 (it has since gone up to $650).  In fact, the rosewood back and sides on this Fullerton are darker and more impressive looking than the Blueridge, and the real abalone inlay also runs down the back of the guitar, in place of the usual herringbone marquetry strip.  The gloss finish is flawless, the frets are smooth, the sealed gold-plated tuners hold their tuning, the neck is straight and the string action is perfect right out of the box (this is the only Fullerton that I've ordered that didn't require tweaking).  The body is a bit deeper (1/4" thicker) than the Blueridge, and the headstock is a bit longer.

In my humble opinion, this is the best solid spruce top guitar on the planet you can buy for $100.   All you fingerpickers and strummers, if you haven't played a good 000-size guitar before, this is it!  Get one before they're all gone:

http://www.music123.com/Fullerton-Greenwich-Deluxe-Auditorium-guitar---Acoustic-Guitar-(Closeout)-i626085.music

Music123's competitor, Musician's Friend, sells a nice $50 Golden Gate 000 hardshell case that fits it perfectly:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Golden-Gate-000-Acoustic-Guitar-Case?sku=541731




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MasterYeti wrote: I hope my  Fullerton Cumberland 12 string and the Fullerton Winslow Resonator Guitar. Come in this week. Keep us informed on that Resonator. I excited to hear what you think about it.
 
I'm bummed I miss out on the Brigantine dreadnought. :(

I picked up my Fullerton Winslow Resonator guitar last night.  It is modeled after the old 1930's style National Triolian biscuit cone resonator guitar.  It has a slim profile (about 3" thick) wood body, with a single aluminum cone resonator with a bright chrome-plated grille, with two F-holes on the top.  The neck has a wider nut than usual, about 1.8".  The intonation is good, and it plays well.  I haven't been able to fully test its capabilities because I haven't yet had a chance to play it loud with a pick, and I haven't learned slide nor lap steel/dobro style playing yet.  Being a roundneck resonator, it can be played as a regular guitar in standard tuning, as a slide blues guitar using open tuning, or as a dobro/lap steel guitar by adding an extension nut which raises the strings about 1/2" above the frets, and playing the strings with a steel bar.  Its a very nice playing instrument for $100.  The price is right if you want to try out a new style of guitar and playing. 

 



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Totoro wrote: Will,

I know someone who bought a Cumberland 12 string when they were $150. He called when the price went down and they refunded the $50 difference. So you should be able to get the $100 refund on the guitar you purchased. Worth a shot.

Thanks for the tip!  I called Music123 and I was able to get a $250.00 credit for 3 guitars that had gone down further in price after I ordered.  What a sweet deal!



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Hello,

Some advice please. I have already ordered the Brigantine but after reading your reviews I am tempted to get the greenwich or the kingwood 6 string. I only have the money for one so I was hoping you could offer some advice. I am looking for a nice looking, bright, balanced sounding guitar. I will mostly be using it for rhythm guitar. I just went with the brigantine because it was an unbelievable deal for an all solid wood guitar but if the greenwich or the kingwood actually sound better, I might give one of those a try. I appreciate your taking the time.

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kdudala wrote: Hello,

Some advice please. I have already ordered the Brigantine but after reading your reviews I am tempted to get the greenwich or the kingwood 6 string. I only have the money for one so I was hoping you could offer some advice. I am looking for a nice looking, bright, balanced sounding guitar. I will mostly be using it for rhythm guitar. I just went with the brigantine because it was an unbelievable deal for an all solid wood guitar but if the greenwich or the kingwood actually sound better, I might give one of those a try. I appreciate your taking the time.

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The Fullerton Brigantine solid spruce and mahogany dreadnought is now sold out at Music123.com, but the Kingwood Jumbo (solid spruce and curly maple) and Greenwich Auditorium (solid spruce and rosewood) guitars are still selling for $100. I own all 3 of those guitars, each of a different size and design; all of mine sound good, but each have their differences in tone.   I now have the luxury of choosing a particular guitar for a particular playing scenario.

If you want a good balanced sound that cuts through the mix at a jam, go with the Greenwich.  My Greenwich came in perfect condition, playable out of the box.  It's very comfortable to hold and play, it's responsive to a light or heavy touch, and it's plenty loud when played with a pick.   It is also the easiest of the 3 guitars to play.

If you want a powerful bass, with a bright projection, go with the Kingwood jumbo.  It's one powerhouse of a guitar.  The jumbo body may take some getting used to because it's nearly 5" thick, and you'll need to install a strap button at the heel of the neck.  Keep in mind that based on my experience, it will probably come with the string action set too low, so you'll need to loosen the strings, shim up the saddle, re-tune the strings, and perhaps adjust the truss rod to prevent string buzz.

If you want a good combination of the above 2 guitars, stick with the Brigantine dreadnought.  (There's a reason why dreadnoughts are the most popular acoustic guitar size - they're considered the most versatile.)  My Brigantine needed the string action lowered a bit by filing down the saddle, and the fret ends needed to be smoothed out.

Hope that helps.

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Will wrote: Totoro wrote: Will,

I know someone who bought a Cumberland 12 string when they were $150. He called when the price went down and they refunded the $50 difference. So you should be able to get the $100 refund on the guitar you purchased. Worth a shot.

Thanks for the tip!  I called Music123 and I was able to get a $250.00 credit for 3 guitars that had gone down further in price after I ordered.  What a sweet deal!

AWESOME! Now you can buy some more guitars ;)

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I'm new to this board was well, happened upon it after following a link on a board where I read about the Fullerton guitars being on sale.  I have a question I was hoping someone could answer.  I'm a left handed guitar player and ended up purchasing a Fullerton Batsto lefty dreadnaught.  Haven't found any review about this particular model yet, however, I should be receiving mine early next week.

I'm very interested in the Greenwich, however, being a lefty, it would have to be converted.  Not sure if it's worth the time and expense to convert it to a lefty, but I'm considering it because of Will's comparisons to his Blueridge.  Could someone who has one let me know if the pickguard looks like it could be removed without too much trouble or damage to the finish.  Don't go and remove yours, just see if it looks like it's on there good or not.  If it can be removed without too much trouble, it becomes easier to justify getting a new nut and rerouting the saddle to string it lefty.

Thanks!

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Will,

You convinced me to try out the Greenwich. I don't want both guitars, but I will try them out, compare them, decide which one I like better, and sell the other one. At this price, there is no need to return the one I decide not to keep. I might even make a small profit on it.

If I decide to keep the Greenwich over the Brigantine, I will probably get the hardcase from Musicians Friend, but I'll wait until I am sure which one I want to keep before ordering.


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matics wrote: I'm new to this board was well, happened upon it after following a link on a board where I read about the Fullerton guitars being on sale.  I have a question I was hoping someone could answer.  I'm a left handed guitar player and ended up purchasing a Fullerton Batsto lefty dreadnaught.  Haven't found any review about this particular model yet, however, I should be receiving mine early next week.

I'm very interested in the Greenwich, however, being a lefty, it would have to be converted.  Not sure if it's worth the time and expense to convert it to a lefty, but I'm considering it because of Will's comparisons to his Blueridge.  Could someone who has one let me know if the pickguard looks like it could be removed without too much trouble or damage to the finish.  Don't go and remove yours, just see if it looks like it's on there good or not.  If it can be removed without too much trouble, it becomes easier to justify getting a new nut and rerouting the saddle to string it lefty.

Thanks!

Matics:

I have no way of telling how well cemented the pickguard is on my new Fullerton Greenwich.  If I wanted to convert a new guitar to a lefty, I'd let a luthier, who has special tools and experience, do the job.  Knowing the risks involved, you may choose to follow this thread on a Taylor guitar forum that discusses how to remove the pickguard:

http://69.41.173.82/forums/archive/index.php/t-7815.html

Good luck.

By the way, the Fullerton ABS plastic dreadnought hardshell case went on sale for $50, and I bought one for my Brigantine:

http://www.music123.com/Fullerton-Molded-Dreadnought-Case--(Closeout)-i245517.music

If you prefer the traditional wooden hardshell case, it sells for the same price:

http://www.music123.com/Fullerton-Hardshell-Dreadnought-Case--(Closeout)-i245522.music

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I got my Fullerton Cumberland 12 string. Man, I am impressed. Right out of the box tuned it up and I was pickn'. The action is a little high. I took it to my Luther friend and he is going to hook it up. He was impressed wit the high quality of that ax. Now adays you can spind $99 on 2 tanks of gas or a nice 12 string. Next on my list is the Tuckerton banjo. WoooooooT!



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I gotta say,  my fullerton 12 string kingwood is the best 149 bucks i ever spent.  i am not too familiar with 12 strings, but this guitar plays and sounds awesome.  the intonation is dead on.  the only issues were that i had to shim the saddle(with help from will) due to low string action/fret buzz, and i plan on getting a bone saddle and some new ebony bridge pins.  If I didn't already have a nice washburn solid wood dread,  i would surely buy one right now for 99 bucks from music 123.  also--why is music 123 dumping these guitars for such short money?  is fullerton going out of business?  just thought someone might know.



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ericb73 wrote: I gotta say,  my fullerton 12 string kingwood is the best 149 bucks i ever spent.  i am not too familiar with 12 strings, but this guitar plays and sounds awesome.  the intonation is dead on.  the only issues were that i had to shim the saddle(with help from will) due to low string action/fret buzz, and i plan on getting a bone saddle and some new ebony bridge pins.  If I didn't already have a nice washburn solid wood dread,  i would surely buy one right now for 99 bucks from music 123.  also--why is music 123 dumping these guitars for such short money?  is fullerton going out of business?  just thought someone might know.
My guess is that since Music123 went bankrupt and was bought buy Musicians Friend, it must now dump the products that Musicians Friend does not want to acquire when the asset transfer takes place over the next few weeks. Musicians Friends agreed to acquire the assets and these are assets they don't want. So this issue is with Music123's bankruptcy and has nothing to do with Fullerton. I imagine that the company in China that makes Fullerton guitars also makes other brands, perhaps even some that are carried by Musicians Friend.

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Totoro wrote: Will wrote: Totoro wrote: Will,

I know someone who bought a Cumberland 12 string when they were $150. He called when the price went down and they refunded the $50 difference. So you should be able to get the $100 refund on the guitar you purchased. Worth a shot.

Thanks for the tip!  I called Music123 and I was able to get a $250.00 credit for 3 guitars that had gone down further in price after I ordered.  What a sweet deal!

AWESOME! Now you can buy some more guitars ;)

With the refund, I got myself the top of the line Fullerton Montclaire solid spruce and solid rosewood dreadnought for $299, before they sold out:

http://www.music123.com/Product/Product.aspx?sku=732865



Better closeup pictures are posted here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/FULLERTON-ALL-SOLID-WOOD-Acoustic-Guitar-WAS-1199-00_W0QQitemZ200050397355QQcmdZViewItem

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I ordered the Montclaire also. If it is up to par with there laminated guitars.... man it is going to be a keeper.
 
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I just received my lefty Batsto and find that it is a great bargain for the price.  Really nice full deep bass.  It compares quite well against my deep bowl Ovation.  I do have some issues with the guitar however and want to get some advice on if I should exchange it or not.

First, the pickguard has completely come up from all edges.  I don't mind too terribly if I can get it to come off entirely (I like the naked look) and would probably get a clear pickguard to replace it.  Not sure what would cause this, hope it wasn't exposed to excess heat or something of that nature.  The other issue is that I notice a bit of a hump in the lower bout more to the right side of the guitar.  It's not symmetric and noticably off to one side when inspected.  Should this be a concern?  It's been a while since I've bought a new guitar.  Thanks.

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Matics:

My guess is that lefty guitars sit around longer in the warehouse because they don't sell as quickly as the standard ("right-handed") models, so perhaps the glue on the pickguard has gone bad.

Regardng the hump in the lower bout of your guitar:  Is the hump anywhere near the bridge?  Relative to your other guitar(s), how thin is the solid spruce top on the Batso guitar?  Is the hump is related to the pull of the strings?  Does the hump disappear when you slacken the strings?  If yes, the hump can be fixed with a device called the JDL Bridge System (a feature built into all Breedlove guitars).  It works to relieve string pull by anchoring to the bridge and transferring the string pressure via a dowel that presses on the wooden tail block at the bottom of the guitar; this relaxes and flattens the top of the guitar.  This also transfers some string vibrations to the sides and back of the guitar, said to improve the loudness and tone of the guitar.&nb