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Hi, I am trying to learn a bit more music theory and stuff. But I don't understand what are the notes in the notation....hard to explain. When you look at notation for chords you have the stem and 3 or so black dots. Are the black dots the notes from the open strings or the fretted positions or am I totataly wrong!!!! I have to write a melody line for a chord progression I wrote and it is going incredibly slowly... Last edited on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 08:47 pm by Newandconfused ____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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banjo brad Super Moderator 
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Real quick and dirty. The dots on a staff of notation are the notes to sound. For instance, a D chord on the guitar's 1st 3 strings are the notes A, D, and F#, based on the 3rd string 2nd fret, 2nd string 3rd fret, 1st string 2nd fret. In notation, there would be a circle (note) above the top line of the staff (F#), a circle on the next to the top line of the staff (D), and a circle on between the middle and next lower line of the staff (A), indicating that you would play these three notes. Depending on the key, there might be a # (Sharp sign) beside the top note, or it might be indicated in the key signature of the staff. Notation and Tab are two entirely different methods of showing the same thing. Notation is the musical rendition of the chord, and the tab is the positional (physical) placement of the fingers on the strings. As you probably have noticed, that is why there is a different number of lines on a music staff and a guitar tab sheet. [edited to remove really bad example] Hope this helps. Brad Last edited on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 09:35 pm by banjo brad ____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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Newandconfused Approved
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Right thanks! I'm fine with tabs but I am trying to learn the 'real' notation and a bit more music theory. So what about C and G...cos isn't the notation in C C/E/G ? and G it's G/B/D? Argh! So confused, so confused.
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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Newandconfused wrote: Right thanks! I'm fine with tabs but I am trying to learn the 'real' notation and a bit more music theory. Yes, those would be the triads in those 2 chords. Let me do something in tabledit for you - I finally figured out how to save a file to post. (The one above isn't complete - I will make a file showing the three chords in tab and on a line of staff. It'll take a few minutes - be right back. OK - here is a screen shot of the D, G, C, D chord progression shown in both Notation (the top line) and tab (the bottom line). You should be able to see the relationship between the two. The notation staff indicates that you are playing a song in the key of G (notice the Sharp sign on the F note position). Is this any help? If you haven't, I would suggest you either get a good basic book on Music Theory - one I recommend is "The Complete Idiot's Guide Book to Music Theory," - or find one of the websites that have some material. Or, better yet, try to find an introductory course at a JC. Theory is important! Brad Last edited on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 10:02 pm by banjo brad ____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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Newandconfused Approved
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Thanks - yeah that helps...I want to learn this stuff cos I agree that it is important. by the way...whats a JC? Last edited on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 10:31 pm by Newandconfused ____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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neilg Approved
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JC = Junior College, also know in some parts as a community college. Here in CA you can cram your brains with all kinds of stuff for $16 a unit. Sweet.
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Newandconfused Approved
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Ooooh...well, I live in Finland so by the time I pay for my flight I would be losing out on the bargain.  We have classes and courses here too (obviously) but as it's in Finland - they're in Finnish, which I have had less success with than the guitar. haha Last edited on Fri Mar 28th, 2008 10:49 pm by Newandconfused ____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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neilg wrote: JC = Junior College, also know in some parts as a community college. Here in CA you can cram your brains with all kinds of stuff for $16 a unit. Sweet.Yup! Sorry, New, I didn't realize you weren't in our country. neilg- I spent many an evening in JC classes when I lived in CA. Not having a degree (long story, blame Kerouac, Guthrie, Seeger, Cisco H. et al), I was able to get a much more eclectic education, and several promotions, via the evening class route. Spent several years worth of evenings at Santa Monica City College, but got my AA before that at Coalina College (now West Hills Community College) in the San Juaquin Valley. Brad
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neilg Approved
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It seems the CA community college system is one of the great deals in higher education. I teach at SB when they need a double bass teacher, and the music program is pretty darn good. I spent 5 years at a small music school on 66th St. in Manhattan. No ukuleles there. They have a guitar program now, though.  Last edited on Sat Mar 29th, 2008 03:19 am by neilg |
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neilg Approved
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Newandconfused wrote: You can start by just getting an elementary guitar method to start learning to read music. You have to start with simple exercises and lots of repetiton. There are no shortcuts, I'm sorry to say.
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