ezFolk Home MP3 Section Tabs & Tutorials Forums - Newest Messages Musical Instruments Books, CDs, & DVDs Other Stuff
Help! Is it absolutely necessary to do it THAT way? - Beginner Questions - Guitar - Guitar - ezFolk Forums
ezFolk Forums Home 
Search     Members Calendar Help Home
Search by username
Not logged in - Login | Register 
ezFolk Forums > Guitar > Beginner Questions - Guitar > Help! Is it absolutely necessary to do it THAT way?

 Moderated by: Richard Hefner
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
Help! Is it absolutely necessary to do it THAT way? - Beginner Questions - Guitar - Guitar - ezFolk Forums
AuthorPost
 Posted: Tue Apr 17th, 2007 08:51 pm
PMQuoteReply  
1st Post
ShadyHarrison
Approved


Joined: Mon Aug 21st, 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 151
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Guitar
Status: 
Offline
Hello, all.

I have just been investigating online resources for learning to play blues slide guitar. However, every resource says that you should put the slide on your little finger. This is an impractical position for me as I cannot sense what I am playing with the slide on that finger. Is it absolutely necessary to do it that way? (And yes, I do eventually want to be able to do "flashy" stuff like putting chords into the slide and notes and fills.)

Thanks for any info which you may be able to offer,

Shady

Last edited on Tue Apr 17th, 2007 08:52 pm by ShadyHarrison



____________________
"If I'm going to see the light, maybe I will be alright, for now I'm headin' down that centre line" Mike McLaren.

http://ezfolk.com/audio/Shady

my ezfolk audio site- Yahoo!
Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Fri Apr 20th, 2007 06:17 am
PMQuoteReply
2nd Post
Roj
Approved
 

Joined: Wed Apr 18th, 2007
Location:  
Posts: 21
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo, Guitar
Status: 
Offline
Hi Shady

I am a slide blues player - and yes i play with the slide on my little finger. No you don't have to play with the slide on your little finger. Check out Rory Block playing, she plays with the slide on her 3rd finger as does Michael Messer. I believe Bonnie Raitt playes with the slide on her index finger. The only finger that i'd say no to is your first finger as you do need to use a finger to damp the strings behind the slide. Other wise you get the notes on both sides of the slide sounds - cool sometimes but chaos on other times.

There will be some sort of trade off with what finger you wear the slide on and what you can do with the rest of your fingers. For instance wearing on my pinky i find it easier to fret behind the slide for a minor chord but then i don't have the extended reach up the fret board as it's hard to stretch my fingers past the slide (well i do if i use the slide but it's hard to master).

My advice would be to wear the slide where you think you have control over it. We are all different, some play left handed, others have large hands, some short fingers, fat fingers, thin fingers, it all goes to your style. If we all played the same thing the same way music and life would be boring.

You will probably get to the - finger picks or not debate next:)

Hope that helps

The forum on http://www.michaelmesser.co.uk is a very good slide player forum

Best regards

Roj

 

 

 

 

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Apr 20th, 2007 06:26 am
PMQuoteReply  
3rd Post
Patrick_Woolery
Approved
 

Joined: Thu Sep 22nd, 2005
Location:  
Posts: 35
Instrument Interest: 
Status: 
Offline
Bottleneck is the coolest sound I know of for a guitar.  Bar none.  But it isn't really any easier than any other method of playing any instrument.  There's a simpler initial learning curve than is the case with learning a whole bunch of chords, but if you are going to get good at anything, it takes work. 

 

You are totally right that it isn't possible to feel where you are with the slide.  That's true no matter what finger you put it on.  In playing slide, you need to use your ears not your fingers for the feedback on where you are.  I went to a music store and tried almost every slide they carried before I found one that really felt right on my pinkie.  Doesn't matter what else happens, you need one that fits!  I ended up with a pyrex tube that is actually about 1/4" longer than I want, but the inner diameter is just right for my finger. 

 

I find it a whole lot easier to play with the slide on my index finger, actually.  It is a tight fit, but I'm so used to doing everything with the index that it really is simpler to use.  However, it does not sound as good.  The index finger should be damping the strings behind the slide so there is a lot less of that whine as the slide moves.  Bob Brozman has a great article on his site that covers this in detail.  And if you want to make those chords, you will have to know how to work with the slide on the pinkie. 

 

As another possibility to consider, I have a nut extender on my guitar now and I play with a bullet slide in lapsteel position.  I like it a lot better because I can see what I'm doing a lot better.  You might try this and see if it suits you better.  There's no magic reason the guitar HAS to be held like it usually is.  You can lay the guitar on your lap, put the slide on your index finger, damp with the pinkie, and make your chords in some unorthodox way.  Blues is a folk style.  Slide is about expressing your own music.  Do it your way.  And even if you don't end up sticking with a particular way of playing, anything you try increases your knowledge.  Just have fun!

 

-Patrick

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Fri Apr 20th, 2007 05:28 pm
PMQuoteReply
4th Post
ShadyHarrison
Approved


Joined: Mon Aug 21st, 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 151
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Guitar
Status: 
Offline
I had been playing my acoustic in the "lap steel" position, but I recently realised that the slide does work with my middle finger, so I have taken to doing it that way. I now need to investigate blues tunings. I would appreciate any input you may be able to give me. :)



____________________
"If I'm going to see the light, maybe I will be alright, for now I'm headin' down that centre line" Mike McLaren.

http://ezfolk.com/audio/Shady

my ezfolk audio site- Yahoo!
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Apr 20th, 2007 08:28 pm
PMQuoteReply  
5th Post
Roj
Approved
 

Joined: Wed Apr 18th, 2007
Location:  
Posts: 21
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo, Guitar
Status: 
Offline
Hi Shady

most slide blues is in open G or D - from 6th to 1St

Open G - DGDGBD      Open D is DADF#AD 

enjoy - it takes a while to get it sounding good - I started with Rollin & Tumblin

Regards

Roj

 

 

 

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Fri Apr 20th, 2007 09:47 pm
PMQuoteReply
6th Post
ShadyHarrison
Approved


Joined: Mon Aug 21st, 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 151
Instrument Interest: Ukulele, Guitar
Status: 
Offline
Oh, OK. :) I've mainly been playing in those two anyway. (What's "Rollin & Tumblin"?) :think:



____________________
"If I'm going to see the light, maybe I will be alright, for now I'm headin' down that centre line" Mike McLaren.

http://ezfolk.com/audio/Shady

my ezfolk audio site- Yahoo!
Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Fri Apr 20th, 2007 10:28 pm
PMQuoteReply  
7th Post
Philj200
Approved


Joined: Thu Jun 2nd, 2005
Location: Sea Cliff, New York USA
Posts: 1353
Instrument Interest: Clawhammer Banjo, Bluegrass Banjo, Guitar, Harmonica, Dulcimer, Mandolin, Fiddle, Autoharp, Other
Status: 
Offline
Play with this one: Find the top of a lady's lipstick tube, a metal one, and slip it on your pinky. Gives you a lot of fingers and still can a slide sound.

How you explain why your pinky is Pearl Pink is totally up to you.



____________________
My MP3 Section: http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/1143/
My Myspace area: http://myspace.com/philj200
Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sat Apr 21st, 2007 03:25 am
PMQuoteReply
8th Post
Johnny Mac
Approved


Joined: Fri Apr 20th, 2007
Location:  
Posts: 1
Instrument Interest: Guitar
Status: 
Offline
At first it is awkward to play slide on your small finger, but remember that it is awkward to play the guitar at all at first. If you ever want to play behind the slide you have absolutely got to have fingers back there to use.

 

With three fingers available you can solo, play chords, and play behind the slide. You are seriously limiting yourself otherwise. (-:

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

Current time is 10:07 pm  
ezFolk Forums > Guitar > Beginner Questions - Guitar > Help! Is it absolutely necessary to do it THAT way?



WowUltra 1.15 Copyright © 2007-2008 by Jim Hale
Page processed in 0.4996 seconds (17% database + 83% PHP). 18 queries executed.