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 Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 05:41 pm
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Hello, all.

I am considering trying to play guitar and sing, and I have realised that (with the ukulele) I can actually sing in the key of F, so would I sing in the key of F on guitar, or would the key I sing in on guitar be different? Would I have to capo?

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 Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 06:57 pm
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The best thing to do is just try it. Sometimes you'll find that you can sing in more than one key. If 'F' feels most comfortable, you might also be able to sing in E or G. Pick a specific song you like to sing that you feel comfortable with on the guitar. If it doesn't fit your range, try using the capo until it feels more comfortable. After you find the pitch, you can decide for yourself if you'd rather transpose the chords or use the capo. You don't want to end up with your capo 10 frets up (or maybe you do. Up to you...), so if it starts to sound too high to you, that would be a good indication that you might want to transpose the chords into the key that best fits your voice.

The wonder of the capo is that, for the most part, you can play the chords you feel most comfortable with, and just capo up.

Or, you could just transpose everything into the key of 'F'.;) :)

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 Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 04:59 am
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The Carters did a lot of stuff out of G, but Maybelle used to capo at the 5th fret and play out of C (especially "Wildwood Flower").

If you want to play and sing in F, try capoing at the first fret and playing out of E position Chords.
E  =  F

A  =  B

B7 = C7

Should work for you.
 
(Wish I had thought of that when I was doing "Pretty Boy Floyd" back in the 60's -70's - that B chord out of open position was a killer! Hmmmm, maybe.......,now, where's my guitar?)

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 Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 08:31 am
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Thanks, all. :)



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Hey Shady,

" I am considering trying to sing with my guitar..."

Where did you get a guitar that sings?

 
Amy’s advice is spot on.  I sing in many different keys including those not so friendly to the fiddler or other players.  I sometimes use a capo or transpose (with great difficulty being so theory challenged) depending on the balance of tones between my voice and the instrument(s).  You may find that simply changing the octave you sing in rather than the key will do the trick in some cases.
 
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 Posted: Tue Apr 10th, 2007 02:22 pm
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Whoops! I can't have been thinking straight when I wrote that post. (Well, I know I wasn't.) :roll:



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ShadyHarrison wrote: Hello, all.

I am considering trying to play guitar and sing, and I have realised that (with the ukulele) I can actually sing in the key of F, so would I sing in the key of F on guitar, or would the key I sing in on guitar be different? Would I have to capo?

Thanks,

Shady

Another way of playing in the key of F is to put the guitar capo at the 3rd fret and play your chords in the key of D.

Experiment with the capo.  If you're just accompanying yourself, you needn't restrict yourself to "regular" keys - you could try the song in F# or D#.



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Sorry, what do you mean by that, Will?



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The common I-IV-V chords in the key of F are, respectively, F-Bb-C

In the key of D, the I-IV-V chords are, respectively, D-G-A.

The Bb (B-flat) and F chords require you to fret at least 4 strings (there is more than one way to play those chords), but a capo will allow you to play these chords while fretting just 3 strings.

I meant to use the D chord shape while your capo is clamped on the 3rd fret of the guitar neck.  The capo shortens the strings' length and will give you the higher pitched sound of an F chord.

Similarly, with the capo on the 3rd fret, the G chord shape will give you the Bb chord sound, and the A chord shape will give you the C chord sound.

If you played the same chord shapes above, but clamped the capo on the 4th fret, you will be playing in the key of F-sharp (or G-flat).

Hope that helps.

 

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Will, I just wanted to thank you for your helpfulness on this forum.  A lot of us owe you a lot for the good information you post here as well as for your excellent music.



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Thank you, Preston.  Enjoy that great new birthday present you got from your wife (the koa tenor uke)!   I should be so lucky (yea, right).  :-)



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