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Newandconfused Approved
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I am learning some folk guitary stuff... Just cant go from G - C....any tips to make it smoother? C - G, no probs but not the other way.....
____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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Will Approved 
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Newandconfused wrote: I am learning some folk guitary stuff... Sometimes, it's the position of the fret hand and the fingers that need just a small position adjustment to make chord transitions easier. I learned on a baritone uke first, which has smaller frets and forced me to keep my finger tips pointing almost straight down (nearly perpendicular to the fretboard) on the fretted strings; I kept that habit when I transitioned to guitar. Also, I noticed that if I slid my palm far past the neck, my fingers could curl more comfortably around the neck to make the chord shapes. Keep your fret hand relaxed as much as possible, and press only hard enough with your fingertips to keep the strings from buzzing. See if that hand position adjustment helps. When you get comfortable with the G to C transition, try the chord transition to D or D7, and you'll have hundreds of songs you'll be able to play. Hope this helps. Last edited on Wed Mar 28th, 2007 07:44 pm by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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Newandconfused Approved
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Thanks I gave up my Ramones inspired 3 chord punk riffs and wanted to learn folk stuff - I got a few chords going and they're fine - but that C - G just is taking so much time to improve.... I'll try your advice! Thanks again.
____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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banjo brad Super Moderator 
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Practice, practice, practice. Slowly at first. Think of each finger placement and watch it go there. It just need time and repetion to gain the speed that you want. It really comes down to making it a natural act - which guitar (or banjo or fiddle) playing, ain't! Good luck, with practice it will come. Brad
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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Richard Hefner Administrator 
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Just for the record, are you playing the G chord with your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th fingers as opposed to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd fingers? If so, it's just a matter of shifting the 2nd and 3rd fingers over one string and adding your 4th finger (pinky) on the 1st string. That's simple but might be a little challenging if you're not used to using your little finger. 
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Newandconfused Approved
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I'm using the 'normal' way...1st, 2nd 3rd fingers. I've tried the one with my pinky but that's like starting all over - but maybe I should try that and instead.... Thanks
____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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Richard Hefner Administrator
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That's the problem... using the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd fingers. You should defiitely go to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I don't know what's considered "normal" -- I've always taught people to use 2/3/4 for the G chord and I would think most chord books would teach that way as well although I'm not positive and don't have any chord books handy right now. It's not like learning to play all over again... I'd consider it more of an opportunity to play more efficiently. You'll still be able to play it the other way but it's just more practical to play 2/3/4 most of the time. Anybody else have thoughts on this?
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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Richard- I learned 1, 2, 3 when I first started. Mostly because of reach problems on a classical neck, but also because it frees the 4 finger for some string work on the 2nd string. Still have a lot of problems using 2, 3, 4, but I can occassionally get it right. I have seen most chord charts show 1, 2, 3 although I also often see 1, 2, 4. The classical methods I studied mainly used these two postions. And, that weak pinky likes to cramp up real quickly when used in that chord.  Brad Last edited on Thu Mar 29th, 2007 07:10 pm by banjo brad ____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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Newandconfused Approved
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Most books I have used (only about 3) use the 1,2,3 method then maaaaybe mention using the pinky....as a side note, at the bottom of the page, where you don't look.
____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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Richard Hefner Administrator
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Well fellas, if you want to play it 1/2/3 I'm fine with that. As far as I'm concerned, I would have trouble switching between the C and G chords if I had to play it 1/2/3 so I pretty much always play it 2/3/4. Playing 2/3/4 also frees up your index finger to play other things, such as making a quick switch to the G7 chord. I just took a look at the new (May 2007) Acoustic Guitar magazine to see if they mentioned one way or the other and on page 12 where they explain their "Music Notation Key" they have a G chord diagram and over the strings it says... 320004 I know that's just one more opinion, but I think it's pretty common these days to play it that way, and it's especially helpful if you're wondering why it's difficult to switch chords from G to C. 
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CMHansen Approved 
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I don't think I'd be to comfortable playing it 1/2/3 either. Though I do when I play things like, 210034 (GBDGDG) and change to the CaddD X21034 (XCEGDG).
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Newandconfused Approved
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Ok - I'll star working on the other fingering and see how that comes along. Thanks again.
____________________ Struggling with a guitar. Waiting for a banjo and using Snus. |
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mark Approved 
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I was taught 1,2,3 initially but then my uncle (who was a very accomplished guitarist) showed me 2,3,4. Although in the main he tended to use 2,3,4 I often saw him using many varied fingerings (some VERY bizzare!) on chords dependant on previous / following chords or notes. I still tend to use 1,2,3 as I feel comfortable with it but occasionally I try and use 2,3,4 occasionally though as I suspect that my preferred fingering is partially responsible for the fact that I struggle with barre chords. Last edited on Fri Mar 30th, 2007 12:42 pm by mark |
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charles92027 Approved 
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When I started out, and was having difficulty with a chord change, I sat with my uke whenever I watched TV. You don't have to strum the chords, just make the changes. Over and over again, thousands of times, after a night or two of that you won't have any problems. Everything's hard if you've only done it once or twice, but do something ten thousand times, and it becomes easy.
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Will Approved
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Richard Hefner wrote: That's the problem... using the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd fingers. You should defiitely go to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. I play the G chord with my 1st, 2nd, and 3rd fingers. My style of playing involves very frequent and rapid chord changes and I only use my pinky for chords that require fretting 4 strings, such as a diminished chord or certain 7th chords. I remember reading an acoustic guitar journal article last year about John (Creedence Clearwater Revival) Fogerty's renewed interest in playing acoustic guitar and he remarked about having to re-train his fret hand to use his little finger. Last edited on Sun Apr 1st, 2007 04:29 am by Will ____________________ Will http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/297/ Loose Change & Friends http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/245/ http://loosechangeandfriends.com The Earth Tones http://ezfolk.com/audio/bands/337/ |
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