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Posted: Mon Dec 19th, 2005 07:55 pm |
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Does anyone know where I can find em free? I've been working on it and have much of it down, but it would save time to see some tab. The only ones I can find on the web require a membership, and I'm not going to fork out $40 for a tab!
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Posted: Tue Dec 20th, 2005 06:40 pm |
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Mountain Banjo-
Here's one:
http://www.harpinanawhinin.com/OldTimeFavorites.htm
This is a great site for harmonica tabs.
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Posted: Wed Dec 21st, 2005 02:48 pm |
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Ah, thanks Brad. I was just about to start transcribing a fiddle melody from notation to harp tabs, and it wasnt going to be a fun process since I dont really read music.
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2006 09:38 pm |
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I decided that I dont like the sound on the middle octave, and want to use the low octave. This means I have to bend the #3 down to B though. I have been practicing it for quite a while, even before I posted the question, and while I can do the bend I cant do it cleanly 2while I'm playing the tune. I can do it pretty cleanly as an isolated bend though.
How freakin long should it take to get a clean bend on #3 draw without choking it or screwing up the rhythym?
I tried it crossed on a G harp too, but that wont be any easier. I'm pretty close on the D, but I want to be able to record it with my "band" by the end of the month and its just not clean enough yet.
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2006 10:54 pm |
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Get yourself a Lee Oskar Melody Maker in the key of C (if you're playing in the key of C) and all the notes are there without having to bend anything. It's well worth the $20 or $25 for the harp and you don't have to relearn anything if you can already play cross harp.
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2006 11:33 pm |
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After all this hard work!??
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Posted: Fri Jan 6th, 2006 11:59 pm |
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Uh... yeah.
I would have recommended the Melody Maker before all the hard work actually. I'd say your choices are...
- Keep on working hard on the standard diatonic harp and maybe you'll get it eventually.
- Get the Melody Maker and it'll be easy for this song as well as hundreds of other songs.
- Just give up and don't worry about it.
That's the way I see it, but I could be wrong. It does work for me though.
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 12:51 am |
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But wont I have the same problem with the sound quality with a MM? i dont like the sound of the higher notes of the second octave when starting on #4 in D (its in D). Those high notes are shrill and lifeless, at least for this tune. I'm currently using a Hohner Proharp, and it sounds real nice and plaintive if I start on the D in the lower register. then I dont have to go past 6 for the first half of the tune. If I start at 4, I have to go up to 8 or 9 where it just shrieks. I think the second half goes one higher, but I've been working on the first half
BTW, I havent played cross harp at all, I just tried it to see if it would be easier. BUt it still means a full bend on one note of the tune. Once I get these bends then I will be trying a little more cross harp, but its not a high priority for me.
I've made a little more progress by reviewing my bending basics, and by tilting the harp a bit when I come to the #3 full bend.
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 12:56 am |
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Maybe you need to transpose it into a key that won't make the upper notes so shrill. Seems to me, that is one of the drawbacks to harp - very limited range.
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 01:02 am |
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If you're not already playing crossharp the Melody Maker will be a little harder to play at first because it's based on the cross harp notes. However, if you're more interested in playing melodies than standard blues stuff you really should learn the Melody Maker, and that's definitely true if you're playing in 1st position now.
I can't tell you specifics about The Tennessee Waltz because I don't know the tune past the first few notes.
I did a page a while back about the Melody Maker and how it works. Read it and it will give you a better explanation than I can right now. Here's where it's at...
http://www.ezfolk.com/harp/intro/intro.html
I can tell you this though. If you're trying to play song melodies you always run into the problem with the notes not being there in the lower register, and everything sounds worse in the higher register. The Melody Maker takes care of the problem by adding the notes you need in the lower register so you can play it there where it sounds good.
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 01:02 am |
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banjo brad wrote: Maybe you need to transpose it into a key that won't make the upper notes so shrill. Seems to me, that is one of the drawbacks to harp - very limited range.
Keep on pickin'
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No can do. I'm playing it with a group and they've been practicing it in D for months.
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 02:14 am |
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You might want to try a low D harp. They are an octave lower than the standard D. I have a D Melody Maker and really like the tuning. I think Hohner and Bushman make low D harps.
4 -4 5 6 4 -4 5 6
7 -8 8 8 -8 7 -6
-6 -7 7 6 5 -6 6 5 -4
repeat first 2 lines
-6 -7 7 6 5 -5 5 -4 4
7 -8 8 8 8 -8 8 -8 7 -6 7 6
-6 -7 7 6 5 -6 6 5 -4
repeat first lines again
Last edited on Sat Jan 7th, 2006 02:24 am by Rex
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Posted: Sat Jan 7th, 2006 09:02 pm |
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The Melody Maker takes care of the problem by adding the notes you need in the lower register so you can play it there where it sounds good.
Yeah, I did look at your MM webpage before my first reply to you, but, dufus that I am, I was reading the C scale instead of G. It does seem the MM would remedy the problem. I'll consider getting one but I'm so close now that I may not need it. If I practice every day, I should be able to tame that 3 draw by the end of January. Still the MM is worth a look see.
I wasnt aware that they made low D harps, I only knew about low Fs. Thats a thought too, but I wonder if that might be too low to give the right feel for this song.
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Posted: Sun Jan 8th, 2006 01:29 am |
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I figured out Tennessee Waltz on the Melody Maker. It doesn't work well. Especially on the D Melody Maker which has the same range as a standard G harp. This tune works best on a standard Richter tuned harp. The tab I posted was for the Richter. I have a Special 20 in D and I think the tune sounds fine in that range. Hohner makes the Special 20 in a low D:
http://coast2coastmusic.com/cgi-bin/cart/HH560_20.html
just click on the keys on that page.
There is also the option of retuning a standard D to get the missing note. I have several "Paddy Richter" tuned harps for playing Irish music. You just need to raise the blow 3 up a whole step. This is done by filing weight off the tip. Tedious, but if I can do it anybody can.
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Posted: Sun Jan 8th, 2006 01:59 am |
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Just stumbled across this site that has a nice explaination of MM tuning:
http://trinity.psnw.com/~dlmurray/lomm.html#05
By the way, at the bottom it has links to this site and my site. Now the pressure is on for me to get some more audio and tabs up.
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Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2006 02:38 am |
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I finally sprung for a Special 20 Low D, it arrived today. I was getting pretty close on the standard D, but not close enough. Problem is solved now, and it sounds great. And wow, what a low end on that thing! (though I dont use it on TW)
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Posted: Mon Feb 13th, 2006 02:26 pm |
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I really like the low tuned Special 20s. I have all keys, but the highest I use is Eb. I use low F#, F, E, and both low and normal D.
dave
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