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| Angle of bow hairs to strings | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2005 02:03 am |
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Malcolm Approved 
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Are the bow hairs to be flat on the strings? I seem to get a better sound if the hairs are at an angle..... bow 90 degrees to the strings and cocked a little -- so the hairs are not flat on the strings. Don't want to keep doing this if it is not correct, might as well break a bad habit at the start. Thanks....... Last edited on Tue Oct 25th, 2005 02:04 am by Malcolm |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2005 03:57 pm |
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banjo brad Super Moderator 
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Malcolm- I have read over on the FiddleFork forum that it is a much more pleasant sound to tilt the bow slightly. I tilt mine back just a bit, so the wood is farther from the bridge than the strings - not much, just slightly. You might want to check out this site: http://www.fiddlefork.com  Keep on pickin'Brad
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25th, 2005 08:53 pm |
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Malcolm Approved
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That is a great site, thanks. Malcolm
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| Posted: Mon Dec 19th, 2005 11:32 pm |
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holleyhall Approved 
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When I took classical violin lessons as a kid and I remember being taught to hold the bow in an angle with the back of the bow angling away from you. You also want your right thumb bent holding the base with your fingers draped at the top of the base. Although Fiddle style is a lot more relaxed you will find what works comfortably. Also use rosin often and make sure you don't over tighten the hair of the bow. Good strings and the type of bridge you use can also make a big difference in the sound of your Fiddle.
____________________ http://ezfolk.com/audio/holleyhall |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 1st, 2007 02:24 pm |
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Franz Still Approved
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When you dedide you want to haol it at an angle be careful of how musch pressure you are applying to the bow because this could result in warping. The styly of tilting the bow is a common method and very good for fiddle. But also becareful that you are not slideing away from the bridge either. You want your bow to touch near the bridge. this is where you can get the best sound. and where the string is the firmest so it is good to play there when you are in a high position like 5 or 6th
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| Posted: Thu Mar 1st, 2007 08:20 pm |
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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"so it is good to play there when you are in a high position like 5 or 6th" GASP!!  You mean Fiddlers play up the neck????????   Brad
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 02:54 pm |
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Franz Still Approved
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Oh yes it can be done I cant do it that well. Cause you get lazy when you play fiddle. but yes it is possible.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 03:01 pm |
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Lyle Konigsberg Approved 
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Hi Malcom, I find that I get the best sound if I don't allow the bow hairs to touch the strings. Better yet, if I don't take the fiddle out of its case...
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| Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 03:21 pm |
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trev Approved 
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that's funny Lyle.... i like to play with mine flat on the stringsand near the finger board....sounds best to me, on both my fiddles.
____________________ http://ezfolk.com/audio/Trev |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 01:50 am |
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holleyhall Approved
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I have learned 1st & 3rd which gives you an advantage on the higher notes. thought the higher positions you play tend to give a warmer sound thatn playing on the open E string. The bow techniques is really the most important. As I have written at another form it is your point of passion in music where you really make the sound happen.
____________________ http://ezfolk.com/audio/holleyhall |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 02:13 am |
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AmyDK Approved
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I have the problem of playing with a somewhat warped bow. Don't know when it happened, and I certainly can't afford to buy a new one (a decent new one, anyway), so I'm still trying to figure out how best to place the bow and at what angle to get a sound that doesn't sound awful . But I had always learned to place the bow nearest the fingerboard. You're saying near the bridge? Hmmm, I'll try it. If I ever learn anything other than 1st position, it'll be a miracle! Lyle - lol! I'm feeling that way more and more. I often think of turning the fiddle into a wall ornament... maybe a clock?  But then I hear another tune I want to learn, so I just squeak on!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 02:35 am |
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holleyhall Approved
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Hi Amy, Have you had problems with tightning the bow? The screw at the bottom usually allows you to loosen or tighten but unfortunatley they can break (which mine has). and they can be fixed quite inexpensively without replacing anything major. It is important that you can can tighten the bow(not too much) and use a good amount of of rosin. Try angling the back of the bow slightyy towards youwhere the hair of the bow is facing out the opposite in a slight angle. When you stroke with the bow use only the area fron you elbow to wrist to move (not your whole arm if I am making sense.) you have more control over the amount of pressure to create your sound. You have a very good ear which really helps. I am relearning how to play again and it takes a LOT of patience to practice. I get frustrated because I used to be fairly ok.... but hopefully I will make my way back some day as time allows.. Holley Last edited on Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 02:42 am by holleyhall ____________________ http://ezfolk.com/audio/holleyhall |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12th, 2007 04:32 pm |
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Franz Still Approved
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You can find nice wood and horse hair bows for about 35$ at most music stores. and is you think you are tightening your bow to much as rule. make the space between the hair and the wood about the width of a pencil or a smigin more. It is really a matter of preference but that is the general rule.
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